"and" click modifier in tag-browser

[heXdot]

So maybe this already exists in some way and I couldn't find it cause it is hard to google but I would really like to be able to have an "and" click modifier when selecting multiple entries in the tag-browser.

As far as I know you can switch between "+" and "-" (not) and when pressing shift or ctrl + mouse click you can connect multiple entries with a logical "or" which is nice. It would be cool if the same functionality would be implemented with logical "and" with e.g. the alt key as modifier.

Maybe there is another way to do this that I'm missing.
I'm interested if anyone knows and if I'm not alone with this.

[theducks]

The 'And' "Or" behavior is set at the bottom of the Tag Browser
Use the wrench-screwdriver icon to see the options for the Tag Browser

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by theducks

The 'And' "Or" behavior is set at the bottom of the Tag Browser
Use the wrench-screwdriver icon to see the options for the Tag Browser

I have trouble considering a single toggle between matching any item and matching all items as being all that useful. It makes a search of the form ((item1 or item2) and item3 and not item4) rather difficult.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by DNSB

It makes a search of the form ((item1 or item2) and item3 and not item4) rather difficult.

Be good if the "Advanced Editor" allowed one to build multi-term search expressions. When I need one, I do it by copying individual terms into a text editor and then adding the parentheses, or's, and's, and not's.

BR

[Divingduck]

A RegexMagic for calibre

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Be good if the "Advanced Editor" allowed one to build multi-term search expressions. When I need one, I do it by copying individual terms into a text editor and then adding the parentheses, or's, and's, and not's.

BR

Hmmmm.... great minds think alike, fools seldom differ?

[kovidgoyal]

Way too much work, at least for me, patches are welcome. Though I have to say, is it really that hard to edit the search expression and replace any ands/ors as needed?

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Way too much work, at least for me, patches are welcome.

As much as I'd like it, I'm not volunteering

Though I have to say, is it really that hard to edit the search expression and replace any ands/ors as needed?

That's what I do. Select them in the tag browser until I have all the conditions I want and then change the ands and ors as needed and add parentheses where appropriate.

[BetterRed]

No dates or quantities in Tag browser, nor should there be. I do quite a lot of date searching and, with audio/video, value searching on resolution and run times - the Advanced Search is very useful in this scenario. I also find shift/control clicking in the tag browser difficult due to disability.

BR

[Divingduck]

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Though I have to say, is it really that hard to edit the search expression and replace any ands/ors as needed?

It isn't really a problem for "us" because a lot have somehow a close/fare IT background and we are using calibre since a long time. But there are also a lot of users around who are not familiar with programming.

A flexible "tool" will also not really help if peoples do not understand what they are doing and how to use it (one of the cons for all super duper ultimate tools).


Finding the correct information in the manual is maybe a point to think about. You can find a lot of information for all kind of problems, but it is more or less a lucky accident finding what you are looking for. You fight with search results that are mixed up in different language and the chance to find in search results the requested information on first place is also not the best. To be clear, it is not blaming but maybe there is something what can be optimized a bit. There a some rare cases where a user find within calibre a direct link to the matching chapter in the manual. Maybe more of this direct links pointing to the correct place in the manual is something to help a users a bit more. It is something you can build up easily by demand over the time if needed and w/o huge recoding activities.

[Terisa de morgan]

Are your sure that reading the chapter is going to give the expected information? If we are talking about building logical expressions with precedence... I don't think a simple entry in the manual is going to help you.

[kovidgoyal]

You are welcome to suggest places where links to the manual can be added. IIRC there is already a link to the search interface in the advanced search dialog.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

If we are talking about building logical expressions with precedence...

@Terisa de morgan - I didn't imagine the advanced search dialogue would actually set the precedence parentheses or the inter-term operators.

What I had in mind was: a) make the Advanced Search dialogue non-modal, b) add a multi-line edit box and c) add a button "Add Term to List". After creating the list of terms, the user would edit the content of the box to insert the parentheses, ands, ors, and nots. And when they're done they would cut and paste their expression into the search box. But I can appreciate how even that is non-trivial.

:aside: a tab for Numbers (similar to the one for Dates) would be welcome, as would a Between operator for dates and numbers.

BR

[Terisa de morgan]

@BetterRed Been there, done that (universal interface): wasted time

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

@BetterRed Been there, done that (universal interface): wasted time

Damn - was hoping you might volunteer to turn one of my wild dreams into reality

Hope you're well, I have a cold I can't shake off

BR