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Hadopi (French Anti-Piracy Group) Not Long for this World
For those that don't know, Hadopi is the group that enforces France's draconian law that kicks a user off the internet after that user is accused of copyright infringement three times. Previously, the law was heavily criticized by the European Parliament because it carried with it the possibility that a harsh penalty (being excommunicated from the internet) would be imposed without any effective judicial oversight.
Now the law, and the group that enforces it, are facing more criticism, this time from the French minister of culture. In an interview, the minister stated: Quote:
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08-06-2012, 01:14 PM | #2 |
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So the initial purpose was for them to develop legal content offerings. That would have worked better than the emails, but it would have required some knowledge of economics and marketing.
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Interesting. A recent story I particularly liked was the leaked RIAA presentation showing that online music piracy accounts for only a small part of the total, unlike what they've been claiming publicly. Perhaps this "revelation" too will serve to make governments and law makers think again.
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RIH! Rest in hell!
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I went through hundreds of those. It's actually not that long ago that I gave away my last tapes, some 300 or so, along with my tape deck and a box of blanks to a friend who is still a "connoisseur" of such arcana. Quite a sad little moment it was too.
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I was given a blank tape with "The Other Side of Life" by the Moody Blues on it. It led to me buying the cd about a year later.
I also used to tape stuff directly off the radio. |
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In the late LP era it was standard practice to buy a high quality blank tape along with the LP to record the full album on first play for use in the car. A lot of my friends would rely on the taped version and only play the LP when they needed a new copy or to make compilations.
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I see nothing wrong with a person losing Internet access for proven piracy or copyright infringement, but not for nothing more than accusations of copyright breaches. With so many legal music streaming sources, how can anyone know whether a person who has a file on their computer has it legally or not? I store music on my iPhone and computer that is streamed to it and which is supposed to automatically delete if I cease to pay the monthly or annual premium. I found that with my old iPhone 4, which I use just as an iPod after upgrading to the 4s, that it does not delete. I can still play the music on either phone. I am legal as I still keep my subscription uptodate but clearly their security is weak as it relies on the device accessing the Internet in order to delete the files if my subscription lapses. Suppose that I forgot to renew my subscription in time, under those laws, would I lose my Internet access for simply being late?
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Here is what draconian punishment looks like: Justices allow 25-year-to-life terms for shoplifting Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 08-06-2012 at 08:57 PM. |
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The music and entertainment industry tried this caper on via their AFACT minions here in Australia.
One court case and two appeals right up to the highest Australian court resulted in failure and payment of millions of dollars in costs to their targeted ISP in an attempt to force Australian internet providers to disconnect users that AFACT accused of file sharing via a letter. Sorry AFACT and your bunch of cronies around the world, legally PROVE such accusations first. |
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Doesn't make the early overextension of California's three strikes law right, but it makes it more complicated to judge. Also note that most Californians have no problem at all with locking someone away forever when they have a history of multiple felonies, at least two of which are violent by definition, when they commit a third. |
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I wonder what sort of punishment the average Californian would suggest for the third offense of illegally downloading a bestseller. Not life, but I'll bet a lot of Californians would see illegally downloading a book as a more serious matter than illegally downloading a song*, and would be OK with prison. Suggesting that the judgment of the general public justifies policy is a slippery slope when you don't want draconian punishment. __________________________________ * How's that? Mostly I am thinking that if no one you know does it, it sounds bad right that. And most people don't know a book pirate. A lesser factor might be that it sounds worse to rip off an author than a celebrity. |
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