Which reader without glare and with note taking ability

nitrocuadam · 01-16-2010, 01:58 PM

Hello people

I am looking for an ebook reader which can read pdfs,has a built in dictionary,has note taking ability

Actually it's like sony prs-600 but WITHOUT the glare.Because as I heard prs600 has a lot of glare that disturbs the reader.I don't want something like this

Is there any kind of device which is capable of both having touch screec and anti glare?

I have seen hanvon n518 but I am not sure if it has glare or not since I couldn't find any kind of review about it on the internet

Thank you very much

gwynevans · 01-16-2010, 04:15 PM

You might want to try & see a PRS-600 in person - there are also a lot of reports from people who are quite happy with it.

Other than that, you might want to consider one of the more recently announced readers, as I doubt that a 5" reader will do all that well with PDFs unless the PDFs are pure text. The only report I saw on the Havon suggested that you couldn't annotate PDF-format docs, but I've no idea if that's actually true - might be something to verify before purchase, though?

WT Sharpe · 01-16-2010, 04:35 PM

I'm very happy with my Kindle 2. IMHO, the K2 screen is too small for reading PDFs, but the fact that you can rotate the screen helps. I haven't tried the Kindle DX, but it stands to reason that PDFs would be easier to read on it than a K2.

There is hardly any glare on the Kindle screen, and it excels at taking notes, which I do constantly. The physical keyboard, although tiny, is a real plus, and beats the virtual keyboard on my Nook hands down.

I have no idea how the Kindle compares to the Sony readers. The Nook and the Kindle are the only two readers with which I have first-hand experience. Anything I say about the Sony 600 would be strictly second-hand.

ill_dawg · 01-16-2010, 10:49 PM

the onyx boox has a wacom touch screen behind the e-ink screen, so tou can take notes with a stylus but there is no glare. It can also read PDFs and has dictionary lookup. Find it here and get $30 off by using coupon code: MRB001

HTH

HarryT · 01-17-2010, 03:06 AM

I'd suggest you look at a PRS-600 and make up your own mind. To be honest, when I hear all these stories about "glare" my reaction is to wonder how many of the people who repeat this story have actually used one for real. I have a lot of readers, as you can see from my profile on the left; the PRS-600 is my favourite, and the one that I use every day.

happy_terd · 01-17-2010, 03:23 AM

I agree with HarryT. I own a PRS-600 and I love it. The glare is not as bad as some people say.

You can always go to Best Buy and check out a display model with its demo books to test it out.

Selcien · 01-17-2010, 04:55 PM

The glare on a PRS-600 is a non-issue as any angles in which you get glare on it's screen are the same angles in which you get glare on a Kindle screen. I'd say that the shiny chrome around it's edges are a bigger problem, if the sunlight catches it just right it can be blinding.

The bigger problem with it is the reflective nature, it reflects things that it's angled at if it's close enough, this is something the Kindle screens do not do. It may or may not annoy you. I've found it annoying some of time but not all of the time, or even most of the time.

The biggest issue is with the contrast, which is really a lighting problem. I've found that the Kindle screens are readable in lighting conditions in which the PRS-600 is unreadable, or would cause eye strain to read on. This is entirely a matter of indoor lighting though as I've found it perfectly readable outside whether it was overcast (a sky full of dark clouds), or bright and shiny (albeit that's where the chrome can be an issue).

The lighting I have at home pretty much sucks, however, I've found that it responds particularly well to fluorescent lighting. I have bought a GE warm white brightstik from Wally World for $10 and change (I think they screwed up on the price since Amazon shows it having a list price of $44 and change). The lamp wasn't suitable to use in the living room so I put it in my bedroom, using that lamp I absolutely love the PRS-600, actually find myself preferring the glass over text look to the bare naked look that text on the Kindles have, but not so much in the rest of the house.

And then there's the touch screen technology, it's being resistive does make it more convenient to use since you don't always have to use the stylus, but when it comes to writing you have to be extremely careful not to touch the screen with anything other than the tip of the stylus. So if you're going to do a lot of writing I'd suggest a Wacom Penabled screen as you don't have to worry about touching the screen when writing (which, btw, will also address the contrast issues as the Wacom layer is under the e-ink layer, not on top of it as is the case with the PRS-600).

I definitely prefer my PRS-600 over the Kindles, even the DX (which I gave to my mom), but it's not as good as it should be 'cause I surely wouldn't be thinking about how to install a fluorescent lamp in the living room if it was.

I'd offer a suggestion but the K1, DX, and PRS-600 are the only readers I've had experience with.

Dulin's Books · 01-18-2010, 07:41 PM

Boox 60 uses wacom touch, has note taking ability(even stand alone notes that you can add pages too on the fly). And of course it can use dictionaries. Check some of the posts by owners in the news section.

Its available from my website as well as several others in Europe if you live there.

kibje · 01-20-2010, 04:20 AM

I saw the Boox 60 and the PRS-600 side by side and when compared that way the PRS-600 screen looks similar to a mirror.

Or I could just be in love with my Boox

HarryT · 01-20-2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

Boox 60 uses wacom touch, has note taking ability(even stand alone notes that you can add pages too on the fly). And of course it can use dictionaries. Check some of the posts by owners in the news section.

Its available from my website as well as several others in Europe if you live there.

When do you expect it to have the capability to add annotation to ePub files? As I understand it, annotation currently only works with PDF. That's a "show-stopper" for me, unfortunately.

When you say "of course it can use dictionaries", can you clarify? Does it have a built-in dictionary? Are the "big name" commercial dictionaries (Oxford, Chambers, etc) available to purchase for it, or are you referring only to the out-of-copyright free ones?

Latinandgreek · 01-20-2010, 04:36 AM

You might want to take a look at the i-rex models and and the Sony prs-900 as well, I have read that the screen is a bit better than the 600 screen. Do you need stylus ability, or just note-taking with a keyboard? Also, do you have a price range that you are looking at?

HarryT · 01-20-2010, 04:46 AM

iRex do not currently have a model with ePub annotation abilities (the DR1000S, which I own, can only annotate PDF; the DR800S doesn't have annotation at all).

The Sony PRS-900 is only currently sold in the USA.

Dulin's Books · 01-21-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

When do you expect it to have the capability to add annotation to ePub files? As I understand it, annotation currently only works with PDF. That's a "show-stopper" for me, unfortunately.

When you say "of course it can use dictionaries", can you clarify? Does it have a built-in dictionary? Are the "big name" commercial dictionaries (Oxford, Chambers, etc) available to purchase for it, or are you referring only to the out-of-copyright free ones?

Dictionaries- It does not come with one installed but you can install your own into the dicts folder on your SD card. You can use any of the free ones found here http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dict...w.dict.org.php

Epub- you can highlight currently but you can not currently make notes using the stylus. I'm not sure why actually . Ill ask about it for a new update.

What i'd really like is to be able to make notes for each highlight. You can see a list of "all annotations" which is what they call the highlights. Id like to be able to choose one them and make notes under it.

bruiser · 01-24-2010, 10:47 AM

I have the N518 have not noticed a glare. I have read 4 books on it so far and studied a few others. The note taking does not work in pdf.

Ulli · 01-26-2010, 09:55 AM

I read pdf files on my PB360, yes there is a bit glare, but not much, it wasnt unreadable anytime i used it.

The notefunction is working well in pdfs.

There is a dictionarie funtion, you can convert your dictionaryfiles into a useable format.

The thin many dont like, is the small 5" display. I like it because of the transportability.

Next month (Feb) there is coming a new model of Pocketbook (302) with larger display and (not at salestart, but later) an anti-glare display.

Cant speak for other readers, because never had some in use, only at the bookstores for a quick view.

01-16-2010, 01:58 PM	#1
nitrocuadam Enthusiast Posts: 39 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: none	Which reader without glare and with note taking ability Hello people I am looking for an ebook reader which can read pdfs,has a built in dictionary,has note taking ability Actually it's like sony prs-600 but WITHOUT the glare.Because as I heard prs600 has a lot of glare that disturbs the reader.I don't want something like this Is there any kind of device which is capable of both having touch screec and anti glare? I have seen hanvon n518 but I am not sure if it has glare or not since I couldn't find any kind of review about it on the internet Thank you very much

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gwynevans Wizzard Posts: 1,402 Karma: 2000000 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: iPad 2, iPhone 6s, Kindle Voyage & Kindle PaperWhite	You might want to try & see a PRS-600 in person - there are also a lot of reports from people who are quite happy with it. Other than that, you might want to consider one of the more recently announced readers, as I doubt that a 5" reader will do all that well with PDFs unless the PDFs are pure text. The only report I saw on the Havon suggested that you couldn't annotate PDF-format docs, but I've no idea if that's actually true - might be something to verify before purchase, though?

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WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	I'm very happy with my Kindle 2. IMHO, the K2 screen is too small for reading PDFs, but the fact that you can rotate the screen helps. I haven't tried the Kindle DX, but it stands to reason that PDFs would be easier to read on it than a K2. There is hardly any glare on the Kindle screen, and it excels at taking notes, which I do constantly. The physical keyboard, although tiny, is a real plus, and beats the virtual keyboard on my Nook hands down. I have no idea how the Kindle compares to the Sony readers. The Nook and the Kindle are the only two readers with which I have first-hand experience. Anything I say about the Sony 600 would be strictly second-hand.

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ill_dawg 21st Century Digital Boy Posts: 14 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Device: HTC TyTN 2, onyx boox	the onyx boox has a wacom touch screen behind the e-ink screen, so tou can take notes with a stylus but there is no glare. It can also read PDFs and has dictionary lookup. Find it here and get $30 off by using coupon code: MRB001 HTH

01-17-2010, 03:06 AM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I'd suggest you look at a PRS-600 and make up your own mind. To be honest, when I hear all these stories about "glare" my reaction is to wonder how many of the people who repeat this story have actually used one for real. I have a lot of readers, as you can see from my profile on the left; the PRS-600 is my favourite, and the one that I use every day.

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happy_terd Banned Posts: 13,045 Karma: 10105011 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Finally made it to Walmart. Device: PRS 420	I agree with HarryT. I own a PRS-600 and I love it. The glare is not as bad as some people say. You can always go to Best Buy and check out a display model with its demo books to test it out.

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Selcien Enthusiast Posts: 40 Karma: 356 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: nook color	The glare on a PRS-600 is a non-issue as any angles in which you get glare on it's screen are the same angles in which you get glare on a Kindle screen. I'd say that the shiny chrome around it's edges are a bigger problem, if the sunlight catches it just right it can be blinding. The bigger problem with it is the reflective nature, it reflects things that it's angled at if it's close enough, this is something the Kindle screens do not do. It may or may not annoy you. I've found it annoying some of time but not all of the time, or even most of the time. The biggest issue is with the contrast, which is really a lighting problem. I've found that the Kindle screens are readable in lighting conditions in which the PRS-600 is unreadable, or would cause eye strain to read on. This is entirely a matter of indoor lighting though as I've found it perfectly readable outside whether it was overcast (a sky full of dark clouds), or bright and shiny (albeit that's where the chrome can be an issue). The lighting I have at home pretty much sucks, however, I've found that it responds particularly well to fluorescent lighting. I have bought a GE warm white brightstik from Wally World for $10 and change (I think they screwed up on the price since Amazon shows it having a list price of $44 and change). The lamp wasn't suitable to use in the living room so I put it in my bedroom, using that lamp I absolutely love the PRS-600, actually find myself preferring the glass over text look to the bare naked look that text on the Kindles have, but not so much in the rest of the house. And then there's the touch screen technology, it's being resistive does make it more convenient to use since you don't always have to use the stylus, but when it comes to writing you have to be extremely careful not to touch the screen with anything other than the tip of the stylus. So if you're going to do a lot of writing I'd suggest a Wacom Penabled screen as you don't have to worry about touching the screen when writing (which, btw, will also address the contrast issues as the Wacom layer is under the e-ink layer, not on top of it as is the case with the PRS-600). I definitely prefer my PRS-600 over the Kindles, even the DX (which I gave to my mom), but it's not as good as it should be 'cause I surely wouldn't be thinking about how to install a fluorescent lamp in the living room if it was. I'd offer a suggestion but the K1, DX, and PRS-600 are the only readers I've had experience with.

01-18-2010, 07:41 PM	#8
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	Boox 60 uses wacom touch, has note taking ability(even stand alone notes that you can add pages too on the fly). And of course it can use dictionaries. Check some of the posts by owners in the news section. Its available from my website as well as several others in Europe if you live there.

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kibje from BooxUsers Posts: 19 Karma: 14 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: The Netherlands Device: Onyx Boox 60	I saw the Boox 60 and the PRS-600 side by side and when compared that way the PRS-600 screen looks similar to a mirror. Or I could just be in love with my Boox

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Latinandgreek Warrior Princess Posts: 5,038 Karma: 9724231 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505; PRS-350, PRS-T1, iPad, Aura HD	You might want to take a look at the i-rex models and and the Sony prs-900 as well, I have read that the screen is a bit better than the 600 screen. Do you need stylus ability, or just note-taking with a keyboard? Also, do you have a price range that you are looking at?

01-20-2010, 04:46 AM	#12
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	iRex do not currently have a model with ePub annotation abilities (the DR1000S, which I own, can only annotate PDF; the DR800S doesn't have annotation at all). The Sony PRS-900 is only currently sold in the USA.

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01-24-2010, 10:47 AM	#14
bruiser Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: arizona,usa Device: Hanvon N518, HTC TP2	I have the N518 have not noticed a glare. I have read 4 books on it so far and studied a few others. The note taking does not work in pdf.

01-26-2010, 09:55 AM	#15
Ulli (-: Posts: 667 Karma: 1310 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Frankonia Device: PocketBook 360°,302	I read pdf files on my PB360, yes there is a bit glare, but not much, it wasnt unreadable anytime i used it. The notefunction is working well in pdfs. There is a dictionarie funtion, you can convert your dictionaryfiles into a useable format. The thin many dont like, is the small 5" display. I like it because of the transportability. Next month (Feb) there is coming a new model of Pocketbook (302) with larger display and (not at salestart, but later) an anti-glare display. Cant speak for other readers, because never had some in use, only at the bookstores for a quick view.