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09-05-2008, 10:10 AM | #31 | |
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I once wrote an analysis of the Harry Potter books in comparison with the Ten Commandments. I think only the first 4 books were out at that point. The sticking point is generally Exodus 22:18 (though many contemporary scholars would translate the word in question as "poisoner" rather than "witch"). Deuteronomy 18:10-11 gets mentioned a lot, too. |
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09-05-2008, 10:14 AM | #32 |
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Many conservative Christians believe that all magic is evil because it originates from Satan. Even magic used for good is inherently evil because the source is evil. That's why there was/is a movement to remove the HP books from libraries. This also applies to LOTR and Star Wars. Interestingly, some of these same people don't think twice about going to Disney World or watching Disney cartoons/movies that contain magic. One parent in particular at my daughter's school used her parental prerogative to forbid her son from checking out any books containing horror or magic themes. She also tried to get many of these books pulled but was unsuccessful. |
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09-05-2008, 10:16 AM | #34 |
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That's interesting, Neko, because there are lots of instances in the Bible where people OTHER than believers in the Judeo-Christian God do "magic" too, and there no particular suggestion that it's "wrong" that I can recall.
Eg, the scene in Exodus (I forget the reference, but I'm sure you know the bit I mean) where Moses goes to Pharoah's court and requests him to let the Israelites leave. Pharoah's magicians turn their staffs into snakes, and stuff like that. Of course, Moses counters them with better tricks, but there's absolutely no suggestion that what the others are doing is not "real magic". I wonder how the fundamentalists would counter that? |
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09-05-2008, 12:23 PM | #38 |
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I think it has more to do with an underlying tendency to divide the world into "us" and "them." For some people, their personal boundaries seem to be defined mostly by what they are not (and they tend to hate and/or fear everything outside of that boundary). It's not my worldview, but I think that's where this sort of thing comes from.
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When some parents at the kids' school petitioned to have a book removed from the high school library for foul language, I bought a copy and read it. The novel (can't remember the title or author right now) was about a 16-year-old boy who steals his older brother's ID and joins the army to "go fight the Germans" in WWII. The foul language was spoken by the drill instructor at boot camp. In other words, it was appropriate in context. Parents must assume the responsibility for deciding what their children will read, view, and hear. It is wrong for those same parents to impose their own choices on others. My kids weren't allowed to watch The Simpsons on TV, because I didn't think they were mature enough to understand the irony/sarcasm inherent in the story lines. I would have been opposed to any movement to remove the show from the lineup. |
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Dale, generally I thought you gave a good response, but just a point: when HarryT mentioned the lack of condemnation of magic in the Moses story, I believe he was referring to the acts of the other magicians at the Pharaoh's court. Presumably the other magicians did not have access to miracles, but were using some other form of power which was demonstrated to be inferior to the miracles Moses produced, but was not described as being inherently evil.
Though I suppose the other magicians could have been using trickery and sleight of hand. |
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With all of the words available, with all of the Languages available, with the possibility of endless creative insults... this is the word she chose?
Using this word is a way to confer a total lack of class and originality and as such, I wouldn't have been interested in her books anyway (now or when I was 10) |
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I agree. It's inappropriate for children that young.
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