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Google's stock is on the rise. Could they be headed for the same fate?
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Incremental improvement in existing products with more competitive prices will not save Apple. Anecdote: I was in Walt Disney World last week. You can get a good feel for the State of the Apple in such places. I only saw one person using an ipad on the four flights I took. In the parks, fewer people were taking pictures/videos with their iPads (they all hold them over their heads during fireworks and parades). |
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That was what Scully did. Didn't work then, won't work now. Apple doesn't run well with the crowd. And if it should happen the crowd is following them, they need to go elsewhere. Right now I'm amused by all the rumors of a plastic-bodied "cheap" iPhone coming at the same time Samsung is looking to maybe do the Galaxy S5 as a premium metal-bodied phone. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...ke-the-iphone/ Apple's much vaunted "innovation" has more often than not been mere differentiation which, in business terms, is a *necessity* not an option. Apple's litigiousness is merely a reflection of their need to be different and the moneychangers' obsession with "the next insanely great thing" is a reflection of the unstated understanding that if Apple *isn't* somehow different, they're not really all that special. (And their stock shouldn't be treated as such.) "If everybody is special.... then, nobody is". Last edited by fjtorres; 04-23-2013 at 07:30 AM. |
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Doom's day is here!
7 Reasons Apple is More Doomed Than You Think
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ZDNet:
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04-23-2013, 03:15 PM | #24 |
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Ftorres... saw this and chuckled... at least someone recognises the rumour-mill effect for all the anti-Apple doomsayers - it really makes them feel good and meets all their firmly established opinions despite having little footing in reality, still never mind the numbers, spread doom and gloom and cheer the "demise" of a major company and employer...
Never mind the facts, numbers and reality of what's actually happening and never mind that, if true, would be a serious problem for thousands of people's employment... Panic, panic and moan moan, way more fun running things down rather than looking for something on the bright side (now ducks for cover from the "antis" and the "we on't hate Apple but..." brigades)... Terrible company, terrible people, terrible products, single-handed destroyers of the world and enslavers of the people... no other company ever has any problems and they're all better than Apple who only ever got anywhere by luck and acting mean... |
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I do not want to see Apple fail.
I want to see their closed ecosystem business model fail the way it always does eventually. Not fail completely, as it has a place, but not as a dominant player. I've bought into it twice because I didn't learn my lesson in the 80s. Never again. Last edited by pl001; 04-23-2013 at 03:44 PM. |
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Apple's financials just came out and, boy, are *they* hurting!
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04-23-2013, 05:51 PM | #28 |
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The figures are strong of course, and they're still making a healthy profit, but nonetheless it is Apple's first drop in quarterly profits for a decade.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22274324 That doesn't mean that profits will continue to fall, of course, or that the share price won't rally, but it does justify this speculation about what path Apple is on. Do they have something up their sleeve? Are they settling into a more realistic position? Graham |
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Their market share is.
RIM fans used to repeat the same things...making a profit, sales increasing, etc, etc. Then within 2 years the bottom fell out. Now Apple is not RIM, but don't assume that just because they are increasing sales that everything is great. Apple has very few products, the oldest and arguably most limited mobile OS on the market, and almost no diversification. |
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I think the perceived risk is that Cook lacks the clout of vision to take a big swing that will turn things around. Even if something new arrives, a lot of people will characterize it as a Jobs death bed innovation.
Maybe that are holding back on a death bed innovation so that Cook can claim it as the first win of his reign? |
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