8+ Readers in comparison - Page 14

D-Style · 09-06-2009, 02:01 AM

Yeah, I've been leaning towards the 505. I almost went out and bought it last night, but Walmart was closed.

The issues I have with the 505 are that the product is now discontinued and I know recently some have been reporting to get it at $200, the Walmart here sells it for $230. If the price dropped to $200 or less I would probably jump on it.

I'm keeping it high on my list, I don't need the portability of a 5", but then again I have never seen a 5" in the flesh.

The kindle I think has too much real estate dedicated to buttons, but I do like the availability of the kindle books.

Right now, I'm going to see if the price on the 505 drops further and see how the pocketpro reviews go.

Also hopefully walmart will start carrying the 300 soon, but I suppose I could just order and return it.

I appreciate the responses, been back and forth so many times on this.

mgmueller · 09-06-2009, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Style

Yeah, I've been leaning towards the 505. I almost went out and bought it last night, but Walmart was closed.

The issues I have with the 505 are that the product is now discontinued and I know recently some have been reporting to get it at $200, the Walmart here sells it for $230. If the price dropped to $200 or less I would probably jump on it.

I'm keeping it high on my list, I don't need the portability of a 5", but then again I have never seen a 5" in the flesh.

The kindle I think has too much real estate dedicated to buttons, but I do like the availability of the kindle books.

Right now, I'm going to see if the price on the 505 drops further and see how the pocketpro reviews go.

Also hopefully walmart will start carrying the 300 soon, but I suppose I could just order and return it.

I appreciate the responses, been back and forth so many times on this.

I've briefly checked prices for Sony 505 in Germany/Europe. The cheapest I've found was 179 British Pound Sterling = 200 Euro = 280 US Dollar.
230 US Dollar from Walmart seems spectacular. No chance in Germany. Here it's still 250 Euro = 350 US Dollar. But Germany always is extremely expensive...
Purely speculating: I don't expect Sony 505 dropping significantly lower. Stock already is limited. Sony most likely smoothly will phase it out and stick (more or less) to the actual prices.

On page 10 of this thread you find a picture, comparing sizes of Sony 505 and Sony 300. Size of the housing isn't that different, single hand use is no problem with both units.
But, surprisingly enough, 1" difference on the display DOES make a difference.

I didn't check for the US recently. But in Germany, bookstores for the moment usually bundle Sony 505 and gift certificates. Often you find 50 Euro credits for eBooks included in the reader's price. If you intend to purchase books, this may be worth looking into it.

Concerning "end of life" of Sony 505: I'm not too worried about that. Sony has sold quite significant numbers, so spare parts for the next few years shouldn't be a problem. And there only has been a single firmware update so far, focussing on ePUB. So, whether 505 would be continued or not, there probably wouldn't be any firmware updates anyway...

aceflor · 09-06-2009, 03:41 AM

Hi there,

sorry to intrude, but D-Style, have a look at that:
http://www.frys.com/product/5748422

It's not available for shipping, but they still have them in some of their stores available for picking up.Maybe it's worth giving it a try.

mgmueller · 09-07-2009, 07:29 AM

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...450#post583450

babalou · 09-07-2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgmueller

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...450#post583450

Always tracking your posts.....
I'm still not sure: Cybook Opus or Sony 300?
What's your recommendation, considering price, availability in Germany, nuber of books available, accessories, ...?

mgmueller · 09-07-2009, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babalou

Always tracking your posts.....
I'm still not sure: Cybook Opus or Sony 300?
What's your recommendation, considering price, availability in Germany, nuber of books available, accessories, ...?

My answer here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...74&postcount=5

mgmueller · 09-07-2009, 12:04 PM

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...48&postcount=4

rwe · 09-09-2009, 06:06 PM

maybe you can clarify something, i got a sony 300 and besides the discussion on reflection, which i don't recognise in the 300, the screen is perfect, i found one thing very strange and not mentioned.
when changing pages, the screen inverts very briefly to black background, white letters, is this a "feature" of e readers in general or only on the sony,
would appreciate your "reflection" on this

D-Style · 09-09-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwe

maybe you can clarify something, i got a sony 300 and besides the discussion on reflection, which i don't recognise in the 300, the screen is perfect, i found one thing very strange and not mentioned.
when changing pages, the screen inverts very briefly to black background, white letters, is this a "feature" of e readers in general or only on the sony,
would appreciate your "reflection" on this

I believe you are referring to the splash of black as the page turns. This is a feature of e-ink. If you go check out some youtube vids you will see that all the e-ink devices have it. The only one I have seen that doesn't have it is the Jetbook, but that is LCD.

Kostas · 09-10-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwe

the screen inverts very briefly to black background, white letters, is this a "feature" of e readers in general or only on the sony,
would appreciate your "reflection" on this

Yes, this effect appears more or less on any eink technology display.
It's like a blackboard that has to be erased before writing again.
One of the drawbacks of eink technology is slow refresh rate, though great progress has been made as far as I know.

Edit: didn't see D-style's answer... duplicate answer...

Quicksand · 09-14-2009, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgmueller

... Sony 700 I like less because of the glare and I've heard similar about Sony 600 (I get mine on Monday, let's see). ...

MG, did you get your 600? How do you like it?

mgmueller · 09-14-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksand

MG, did you get your 600? How do you like it?

I've got it on Monday last week.
And I've been positively surprised.
In https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55857 I'm comparing all 4 Sonys: 300, 505, 600 and 700.

Brief summary:
Sony, with the 600, got it all right.
Better display than 700, better design and usability than 300.
My ranking:
Sony 700 = #4
Sony 300 = #3
Sony 505 and Sony 600 = even = #1

I absolutely can recommend it!

Another picture: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...48&postcount=4

HarryT · 09-14-2009, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Style

I believe you are referring to the splash of black as the page turns. This is a feature of e-ink. If you go check out some youtube vids you will see that all the e-ink devices have it. The only one I have seen that doesn't have it is the Jetbook, but that is LCD.

For the overwhelming majority of people, after using the device for an hour or so, they no longer consciously "see" the screen flash. Your brain just "filters it out". It's a total "non-issue".

FlorenceArt · 09-14-2009, 05:30 AM

I hadn't seen this thread before, thanks for reviving it! I love the group photo

The Opus looks so tiny next to the big Kindle. And the Kindle's design seems to have improved A LOT, I could even consider buying it if Amazon wasn't making such a mess with the mobi format.

advocate2 · 09-14-2009, 08:08 PM

MG,

I just added to your Karma!! What a great thread. Wireless doesn't mean much to me. I have a computer available all the time and don't mind downloading to the computer and then moving to the reader. I,too, consider the cost of books to be the major factor.

Given your statements on the number of books purchased compared to the cost of the reader, how do you feel the Epub's available from ebook libraries (free) will impact purchase decisions and rankings on readers which don't have such access (Kindle)? Reviewers seem to be focusing on this issue since the recent Sony Press Conference at the NYPL. Does it affect your rankings?

09-06-2009, 03:41 AM	#198
aceflor Wizard Posts: 3,470 Karma: 48036360 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: where the sun lives, or so they say Device: Pocketbook Era, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Scribe	Hi there, sorry to intrude, but D-Style, have a look at that: http://www.frys.com/product/5748422 It's not available for shipping, but they still have them in some of their stores available for picking up.Maybe it's worth giving it a try. Last edited by aceflor; 09-06-2009 at 01:20 PM.

09-07-2009, 07:29 AM	#199
mgmueller Member Retired Posts: 3,308 Karma: 13024950 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Augsburg (near Munich), Germany Device: 26 Readers, 44 Tablets	Sony 300 vs. Sony 600 vs. Sony 700 vs. Sony 505 https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...450#post583450 Last edited by mgmueller; 09-07-2009 at 08:01 AM.

09-07-2009, 12:04 PM	#202
mgmueller Member Retired Posts: 3,308 Karma: 13024950 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Augsburg (near Munich), Germany Device: 26 Readers, 44 Tablets	Pink Sony 300 vs. Red Sony 600 https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...48&postcount=4 Last edited by mgmueller; 09-07-2009 at 12:09 PM.

09-09-2009, 06:06 PM	#203
rwe Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: ipod sony	flicker on sony screen when changing pages? maybe you can clarify something, i got a sony 300 and besides the discussion on reflection, which i don't recognise in the 300, the screen is perfect, i found one thing very strange and not mentioned. when changing pages, the screen inverts very briefly to black background, white letters, is this a "feature" of e readers in general or only on the sony, would appreciate your "reflection" on this

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09-06-2009, 02:01 AM	#196
D-Style Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West Des Moines, IA Device: none	Yeah, I've been leaning towards the 505. I almost went out and bought it last night, but Walmart was closed. The issues I have with the 505 are that the product is now discontinued and I know recently some have been reporting to get it at $200, the Walmart here sells it for $230. If the price dropped to $200 or less I would probably jump on it. I'm keeping it high on my list, I don't need the portability of a 5", but then again I have never seen a 5" in the flesh. The kindle I think has too much real estate dedicated to buttons, but I do like the availability of the kindle books. Right now, I'm going to see if the price on the 505 drops further and see how the pocketpro reviews go. Also hopefully walmart will start carrying the 300 soon, but I suppose I could just order and return it. I appreciate the responses, been back and forth so many times on this.

09-14-2009, 05:30 AM	#209
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	I hadn't seen this thread before, thanks for reviving it! I love the group photo The Opus looks so tiny next to the big Kindle. And the Kindle's design seems to have improved A LOT, I could even consider buying it if Amazon wasn't making such a mess with the mobi format.

09-14-2009, 08:08 PM	#210
advocate2 My Kingdom for Karma Posts: 430 Karma: 7125 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Device: Sony 350, 650, 950, Nook Color	MG, I just added to your Karma!! What a great thread. Wireless doesn't mean much to me. I have a computer available all the time and don't mind downloading to the computer and then moving to the reader. I,too, consider the cost of books to be the major factor. Given your statements on the number of books purchased compared to the cost of the reader, how do you feel the Epub's available from ebook libraries (free) will impact purchase decisions and rankings on readers which don't have such access (Kindle)? Reviewers seem to be focusing on this issue since the recent Sony Press Conference at the NYPL. Does it affect your rankings?

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