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And I'm with Steven on the philosophy. It's one thing to make business decisions on the realities of piracy, it another to foment the idea that piracy is OK or justified for the ridiculously self-important reasons given. Example: "I am not concerned with the piracy of my books because I don't feel that I'm losing that much money." That's a business decision. "You should not be concerned about the piracy of your books because I don't think you are losing that much money." That's just a selfish attempt at justifying an illegal act, and it is likely to sway no one. ApK |
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A certain amount of theft is normal for any business. Your local supermarket doesn't close down either, just because it loses some sales to shoplifting, does it? |
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But the part where you throw up your hands and surrender to the pirates is new. If it were almost anyone else, I would call it a flounce. But you're not someone else - you're an author whose work I have just started reading recently, and I was enjoying it. I was becoming a fan. And so I'll say this as a fan: This makes me feel like crap. The pirates have won, alright, because you put them first. All I hear is "I did want you wanted and you stole from me anyway." No, you did what we wanted and someone else stole from you anyway. Those people would have done so no matter what. But I wouldn't have. Not in a million years. |
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And I think youre being a little over dramatic about this. I dont understand. Im not going to walk in here and pretend Im knowledgeable. I dont know much of anything when it comes to the professional world but I do know about pirates. I do know this topic is the proverbial dead horse and man does it take a beating. My main point is this. I dont think pirating can be stopped. Honestly, it cant. People will find ways to do it no matter the outcome. However for the publishers, they need to put that money and time that they could use to stop pirating into chocking out a good product. If I buy one more Kindle book with crappy editing I might just scream. Books cost too much for that kind of mess. Now in your case Mr. Steven, I realize youre giving a good product at a good price. The problem is that you think that just because your book is up for download somewhere youre losing money. Theres a few problems with that. Another thing that might sound harsh but this isnt meant to be an insult. Sir, you arent well known. Before this thread I had no idea who you were. You arent Stephen King. If you were he, Id say the same thing but at least youd have a legitimate argument. Youre complaining because you got a note that someone put your book up for download. Fair enough. But I doubt you checked it out. I doubt many people downloaded it. And if they did, free publicity, because again, you arent well known. Some may just pirate to be jerks getting free books. Some may have genuine interest in you and pirate it then go back and buy your books. They are cheap after all. $3 isnt much. Who knows? Giving up does nothing for you honestly. You think youre losing sales now? Im pretty sure youll lose more just giving up because 'some' people may have downloaded your book. And take a look at all the people in this very thread that are talking of purchasing your book. Those could be sales later on down the road. Those could be sales tonight. Those people could like you and buy your next books the minute they come out. I dont know sir, I just think youre jumping the gun here and might want to sit down for a moment and reconsider. Or you could take up painting, thats good too. Last edited by NVash; 04-25-2011 at 02:27 PM. |
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The big thing is, some people will NEVER buy a product. If it isn't available to steal, they'll just do without. When someone like Steven Lyle Jordan stops producing because they are fed up with the pirates, it does not effect the pirates. It only hurts the fans who enjoyed the product and paid for it, and want to pay for more.
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I notice the library now uses a new symbol for ebooks - it has a padlock on it. It's starting!
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Some people write to earn money, while others write because they want to be read. If piracy hurts the former, perhaps it helps the latter (ie of course, those who manage to get their works published).
Then there are people like me who choose not to buy or steal, and prefer to do without. There are more than enough free e-books available to keep me happy for the foreseeable future. I would never spend money on a book that has DRM. I expect to be able to keep any book that I buy. There are plenty of DRM-free books available, should I ever feel the need to spend any money. Last edited by boxcorner; 04-25-2011 at 03:12 PM. |
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I thought it was well known that most people who go into something like writing dont make it big and barely scrape by. I have no figures for this, I heard it somewhere and it made alot of sense. Youd have to atleast scrape by until you develop a large fan base right?
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You guys are digging way too deep into this. It's simple: I write to make money, and I'm not making any money... in fact, I'm losing money by the shovelful. Writing was a failed experiment in making a second income. So, I'm gonna stop.
And yeah, I do happen to think that piracy is adversely affecting the industry... one more thing preventing my making money. I'm not going to debate how much... we should all realize by now that that debate is going nowhere. Yeah, it's frustrating... and not just for you. It's frustrating for me on multiple levels, because I also like to write; but I don't have time for such a time- and energy-consuming hobby that frustrates me, and doesn't do what I need it to do. And I'd also like to be a part of finding a solution that satisfies me, and gives me a good reason to write... but as the Gods are my witnesses, I don't see one, and haven't heard one from anyone else. I took a few good ones for the team; now I'm too beat up to play anymore. Put someone else in, coach. |
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