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And what exactly constitutes 13 words per line? Going by memory, the studies I looked at specified characters per line not words per line. For your suggestion using an average of 4.7 characters per word in English, this would be equivalent to a line that is 72 characters long (4.7x13 + 11 spaces = 72.1). Using the higher average of 5.1 I've seen as well would give a line that is 77 (more precisesly 77.3) characters long. Last edited by DNSB; 09-25-2022 at 03:48 AM. |
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There is the annoyance factor too. Last night at Chapter 2 at 11.15 pm approx. I got up and reformatted the CSS on the ebook to remove extra space between paragraphs (it did have 1st line indent), no indent on first paragraph after chapter heading and Justified instead of flushed left(ragged right). I don't need to read faster. I had to learn to read slower when proofing. I think people have a natural reading speed once they are competent readers, but like justified/ragged or sans/serif claims, that's just an opinion. Some people like ragged right, or Sans. It doesn't make it best for everyone. What's great about DRM free ebooks using a known editable format is that you can adjust for your own preferences. I've a couple of books by authors I like (on paper) that I really can't read because the print quality is poor. I bought an ebook version of another paper book because the formatting of the paper version made it almost unreadable. Nearly half of it was typewriter style monospace to suggest a MSS, but at supposed time of fictional MSS the proportional Times with fully justified paragraphs had been the norm for years. Oddly and unusually for a main publisher the eBook didn't need edited, its formatting was more conventional. |
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The only scientific result is that more people prefer reading with sans-serif.
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But again with paper you have no choice. With ebooks there is a choice. It's possible to "over-ride" web pages, but not worth the bother. What is truly an issue is paler grey text on white or darker grey on black, but even grey is a terrible choice. Too many UI and websites are now driven by the designer's concept of pretty rather than real research. Just recently: https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/...td=keepreading An aside: Underlining was invented for typewriters. A typesetter would then change it to bold or italic. Later *Some Text* and /Some Text/ were used to indicate bold and italic as it's less typing. So Underline was chosen for hyper Links as by 1989 it wasn't needed as almost all things supported Bold and many thing Italics. Some people find large blocks of bold or italic more tiring to read which is why bold is mostly now for headings. The italics can mean many different things: Emphasis of various kinds, a title in body text rather than quotes, a foreign language (common before 1960s), thoughts, telepathy, a short in-line quotation etc. In many Western languages we find ALL CAPS tiring to read now because we are used to the 4th to 8th C. innovation of lower case mixed with capitals (rules for capitalisation vary with language and context). Many languages don't have cases, bold, italic or even native quotation marks. So this gives an insight to the Ragged vs fully justified and sans vs serif arguments; we are most comfortable with the formatting and typological conventions we are most familiar with. That's not just an opinion because many studies agree. It's indeed the difficulty in studies of agged vs fully justified and sans vs serif or even columns, column width and full page width. Obviously broadsheet newspapers need columns, but what is ideal width? |
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I did not arrive at my understanding of how the human brain reads by reading a single study. I do not have the appetite to summarize, synthesize, and present research to you on this. I do not care what do you. However, ceteris paribus, for a human brain, if you enable hyphenation, and justification, you're as likely to meet a person able to maintain a higher reading speed as you are to meet someone able to more easily lift 2KG over their head than 1KG, ceteris paribus. Happy reading. |
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I did not arrive at my understanding of how the human brain accepts an argument by reading a single forum post. I do not have the appetite to summarize, synthesize, and present research to you on this. However ceteris paribus, making declarative statements and refusing to present any evidence is likely to get your point ignored by anyone you talk to about statements of fact. |
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I did take a look and could not find any proper study that shows that left justified without hyphens allows one to read faster. I would be interested in reading such a study if anyone can link one. Thanks.
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Like most such studies involving humans, the results are not usable to predict the individual person. One study from 1986 ( Readability of Computer-Generated Fill-Justified Text ) had the following abstract: Quote:
Looking at some of studies almost makes me regret that I no longer have the affiliation needed to access the full papers. Last edited by DNSB; 09-25-2022 at 03:34 PM. Reason: Added link to study |
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