Please confirm “CIGALA” translation/definition

GrannyGrump · 10-10-2018, 12:42 AM

I am compiling a book of Victorian ghost stories (yes, another one), and hit what I think is a typesetter's error. Here is quote of the paragraph (direct from the pdf of original magazine publication):

The sun beat fiercely on the Tuscan landscape; […] Dust, drought, and sultry silence, broken only by the cigala’s tiny chirp, prevailed over all the landscape.

Online translator Reverso gives me Norway lobster, crayfish, prawn, and langoustine. Definitely watery, not dusty droughty hillsides...

My personal feeling is that the word should be cicada.

Can anyone give me some feedback?

Doitsu · 10-10-2018, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

My personal feeling is that the word should be cicada.

Maybe the original manuscript contained cicala, which is the Italian word for a cicada.

GrannyGrump · 10-10-2018, 03:04 AM

Ha! my instinct was right.
I am going to use cicada.

Thank you, Doitsu.

elibrarian · 10-10-2018, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

I am compiling a book of Victorian ghost stories (yes, another one), and hit what I think is a typesetter's error. Here is quote of the paragraph (direct from the pdf of original magazine publication):

The sun beat fiercely on the Tuscan landscape; […] Dust, drought, and sultry silence, broken only by the cigala’s tiny chirp, prevailed over all the landscape.

Online translator Reverso gives me Norway lobster, crayfish, prawn, and langoustine. Definitely watery, not dusty droughty hillsides...

My personal feeling is that the word should be cicada.

Can anyone give me some feedback?

French has cigale, which can be both a lobster, some sort of anchor and a a couple of species of cicada. So cicada is probably close enough.

Regards,

Kim

GrannyGrump · 10-10-2018, 05:04 AM

Cool. its always nice to have a consensus

Terisa de morgan · 10-10-2018, 05:15 AM

"Cigala", in Spanish, is only a kind of lobster (not lobster, that would be "langosta" or "bogavante"), but I don't think they chirp in the Tuscany. I would go with "cicala", the same than "cigarra" in Spanish or "cicada" in English.

BetterRed · 10-10-2018, 05:30 AM

Well cicadas may chirp tinily in Tuscany, but the ones that hatch at the end of my street sound more like a swarm of buzz-saws at about 120db EACH! Folks hurry by with their hands over their ears. Thankfully they only hatch, en-masse, every few years

BR

Terisa de morgan · 10-10-2018, 06:40 AM

Thankfully, we only have small quantities of cicadas (or even crickets), not "en-masse".

GrannyGrump · 10-12-2018, 08:59 AM

I must comment that the first page of google hits all insisted the word was Spanish, and majority of translations favored Crayfish/Crawfish, and Norway Lobster. Then came lots of suggestions that it was a proper name.

Us language-challenged folks have a rough row to hoe.

Terisa de morgan · 10-12-2018, 09:49 AM

I can sure you that Cigala is a Spanish word, but not very probably to find in Tuscany it of a restaurant.

Hitch · 10-12-2018, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

Us language-challenged folks have a rough row to hoe.

Or Roe to Ho.

Hitch

10-10-2018, 12:42 AM	#1
GrannyGrump Obsessively Dedicated... Posts: 3,200 Karma: 34977896 Join Date: May 2011 Location: JAPAN (US expatriate) Device: Sony PRS-T2, ADE on PC	Please confirm “CIGALA” translation/definition I am compiling a book of Victorian ghost stories (yes, another one), and hit what I think is a typesetter's error. Here is quote of the paragraph (direct from the pdf of original magazine publication): The sun beat fiercely on the Tuscan landscape; […] Dust, drought, and sultry silence, broken only by the cigala’s tiny chirp, prevailed over all the landscape. Online translator Reverso gives me Norway lobster, crayfish, prawn, and langoustine. Definitely watery, not dusty droughty hillsides... My personal feeling is that the word should be cicada. Can anyone give me some feedback?

10-12-2018, 08:59 AM	#9
GrannyGrump Obsessively Dedicated... Posts: 3,200 Karma: 34977896 Join Date: May 2011 Location: JAPAN (US expatriate) Device: Sony PRS-T2, ADE on PC	I must comment that the first page of google hits all insisted the word was Spanish, and majority of translations favored Crayfish/Crawfish, and Norway Lobster. Then came lots of suggestions that it was a proper name. Us language-challenged folks have a rough row to hoe. Last edited by GrannyGrump; 10-12-2018 at 09:15 AM.

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GrannyGrump Obsessively Dedicated... Posts: 3,200 Karma: 34977896 Join Date: May 2011 Location: JAPAN (US expatriate) Device: Sony PRS-T2, ADE on PC	Cool. its always nice to have a consensus

10-10-2018, 05:15 AM	#6
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,227 Karma: 11768331 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	"Cigala", in Spanish, is only a kind of lobster (not lobster, that would be "langosta" or "bogavante"), but I don't think they chirp in the Tuscany. I would go with "cicala", the same than "cigarra" in Spanish or "cicada" in English.

10-10-2018, 05:30 AM	#7
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,553 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Well cicadas may chirp tinily in Tuscany, but the ones that hatch at the end of my street sound more like a swarm of buzz-saws at about 120db EACH! Folks hurry by with their hands over their ears. Thankfully they only hatch, en-masse, every few years BR

10-10-2018, 06:40 AM	#8
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,227 Karma: 11768331 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Thankfully, we only have small quantities of cicadas (or even crickets), not "en-masse".

10-12-2018, 09:49 AM	#10
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,227 Karma: 11768331 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	I can sure you that Cigala is a Spanish word, but not very probably to find in Tuscany it of a restaurant.