OptWare for Kindle - Page 4

damaru · 02-20-2012, 05:35 PM

hum I haven't tried the mplayer from the command line. Moc is just a nice player with a simple yet powerful interface (I use it for my audio player on my main computer) I'll check you mplayer, but I understood there wasn't any interface to the software

sjheiss · 02-20-2012, 05:46 PM

OK, I misunderstood what you meant by "interface". No, kinamp/mplayer does not have an interface. But, I don't see why MOC from ipkg wouldn't work. You'd just a terminal, like myts or kiterm.

thatworkshop · 02-22-2012, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geekmaster

Optware (and a full debian chroot) worked great on the k3, but later kindles have been plenty of trouble.

I wonder when someone installs Optware in /mnt/us/ (NOT /opt partition), is there still a chance of bricking KT? <- well there is always a chance, but roughly let's say just because of disk space issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawhill

Note that symlinking is not needed, you can do everything with bind mounts. Also, there's no real reason to create another directory in /mnt either, it can very well be beneath /mnt/us. So you don't need writes to the root partition at all.

A request (hawhill or danik maybe?!):
I installed ipkg and 6-7 packages following the OP instructions (not danik's ones), and after removing all the packages, there are still a lot of packages left in various folders inside /opt!!! How can someone completely remove them safely? (ALSO, I believe 'ipkg remove mypkg' doesn't remove all the files it installed (which sucks) and leaves empty folders behind too!

I have attached my KT's freespace, I wonder if I am Ok, compared to other people's free spaces?

sjheiss · 02-22-2012, 10:38 PM

Nevermind.

CaelThunderwing · 11-08-2013, 09:13 AM

ok i dont knwo what i did wrong, i followed upto 5. using https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Optware via kiterm and i cant cd to /etc or any folders and out of that extracting ipkg also fails.

twobob · 11-08-2013, 12:30 PM

Question.

http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ I'm not 100% on why optware was so awesome (It's been about a year since I looked) but is there any reason why a debian loopmount lenny wouldnt provide "better/wider range of" apps and be far less of PITA in terms of actually "getting it to run". One file, mounted, looped. run via script?

I could probably scrape something together if the answer is "Hey that's not a bad idea."

Just a thought.
I even kind of recall there being decent framebuffer support on a few things back in those days... might be a few gems to dig out.

Throw rocks now.
(Sorry optware devotees but this thread is littered with "I do what now?")

EDIT: AH post 2 https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...72&postcount=2 yeah... that...

CaelThunderwing · 11-08-2013, 04:49 PM

far better :3 and the easier way to get irsii as well to run (having a second screen to read IRC Chat the better for when i stream on twitch.

twobob · 11-08-2013, 05:04 PM

so. optware is better? k.

CaelThunderwing · 11-08-2013, 05:11 PM

sorry i cant edit my post for whatever reason. i thought i typed "thats a far better idea." (optware last time i used optware was a PITA Bigtime and now i cant even undo the symlinks. luckly i made Backups of the rootfs)

if you can help w/ a quick install guide for your idea that'd be great.

twobob · 11-08-2013, 08:33 PM

Ah okay mate. Yeah I'll have a hunt around then, I meant to do this about 5 times over now... Mainly for Idoit++ since his love for the kindle 3 was rekindled. and a buddy of mine who I haven't seen for far too long a time, but that is another story.

Right. on my todo list then.

twobob · 11-08-2013, 09:47 PM

HOWTO:

Spoiler:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../lenny.ext3.xz
(resized to a little over 400MB) REF: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resi...xt3_partitions

copy that to /mnt/us/debian.ext3

mount script https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15900420/mntdebian

copy that to /mnt/us/mntdebian

run it like /mnt/us/mntdebian via shh (or terminal or w/e)

should work okay.

if you get complaints about regional stuff

dpkg-reconfigure locales and pick your region...
[*] en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8

brianinmaine · 11-08-2013, 11:01 PM

Nicely done. perfect tutorial.

curious - what do you see as a benefit to optware-like images vs. native programs in extensions? Do you intend a full X environment? <- still having problems with that by the way

I like being able to just rip it from debian to run it native, I suppose in a dream world you could make it mount a main image and just save changes like puppy linux does? matter of fact we could 'borrow' from tiny core linux or something to be able to install packages from the net?

twobob · 11-08-2013, 11:15 PM

on the kindle 3 as everything is framebuffer based many of the "odd" titling issues associated with the kindle touches Awesome just don't apply.

So, yes no problem ripping this stuff/ running it native, but this is a handy way to "get something to rip". of course that also has overhead associated with duplicate libs that the kual-system was/is aiming to sure in the medium term...

I did consider many times over a package maintenance system, perhaps when we have a big enough list if apps to warrant such a thing... and more metadata in the packages themselves...

thatworkshop · 03-26-2014, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twobob

copy that to /mnt/us/debian.ext3

Thanks twobob. Indeed, I think debian is more useful than OptWare.

The above sentence should be changed to 'extract it as /mnt/us/debian.ext3' because otherwise it's a compressed file and mntdebian will through errors.

12v · 07-27-2016, 02:56 PM

Hi all. I was curious if anyone has gotten the newer optware-ng running in place of the old optware. I'm only not sure it would work because it appears to be compiled for v5 and v7 ARM cpus at this time. AFAIK the kindle runs a v6 compatible cpu. I might be mistaken. I'm not super familiar with ARM architectures and compatibility.

According to optware, ng is now official:
http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/HomePage

official optware-ng packages
http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/optware-ng/

02-22-2012, 10:38 PM	#49
sjheiss Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 26 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: K3G, KF2	Nevermind. Last edited by sjheiss; 02-22-2012 at 10:49 PM.

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02-20-2012, 05:35 PM	#46
damaru Enthusiast Posts: 45 Karma: 6672 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: kindle	hum I haven't tried the mplayer from the command line. Moc is just a nice player with a simple yet powerful interface (I use it for my audio player on my main computer) I'll check you mplayer, but I understood there wasn't any interface to the software

02-20-2012, 05:46 PM	#47
sjheiss Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 26 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: K3G, KF2	OK, I misunderstood what you meant by "interface". No, kinamp/mplayer does not have an interface. But, I don't see why MOC from ipkg wouldn't work. You'd just a terminal, like myts or kiterm.

11-08-2013, 09:13 AM	#50
CaelThunderwing Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 73434 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: K3(Wifi+3G)	ok i dont knwo what i did wrong, i followed upto 5. using https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Optware via kiterm and i cant cd to /etc or any folders and out of that extracting ipkg also fails.

11-08-2013, 12:30 PM	#51
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	Question. http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ I'm not 100% on why optware was so awesome (It's been about a year since I looked) but is there any reason why a debian loopmount lenny wouldnt provide "better/wider range of" apps and be far less of PITA in terms of actually "getting it to run". One file, mounted, looped. run via script? I could probably scrape something together if the answer is "Hey that's not a bad idea." Just a thought. I even kind of recall there being decent framebuffer support on a few things back in those days... might be a few gems to dig out. Throw rocks now. (Sorry optware devotees but this thread is littered with "I do what now?") EDIT: AH post 2 https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...72&postcount=2 yeah... that...

11-08-2013, 04:49 PM	#52
CaelThunderwing Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 73434 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: K3(Wifi+3G)	far better :3 and the easier way to get irsii as well to run (having a second screen to read IRC Chat the better for when i stream on twitch.

11-08-2013, 05:04 PM	#53
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	so. optware is better? k.

11-08-2013, 05:11 PM	#54
CaelThunderwing Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 73434 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: K3(Wifi+3G)	sorry i cant edit my post for whatever reason. i thought i typed "thats a far better idea." (optware last time i used optware was a PITA Bigtime and now i cant even undo the symlinks. luckly i made Backups of the rootfs) if you can help w/ a quick install guide for your idea that'd be great.

11-08-2013, 08:33 PM	#55
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	Ah okay mate. Yeah I'll have a hunt around then, I meant to do this about 5 times over now... Mainly for Idoit++ since his love for the kindle 3 was rekindled. and a buddy of mine who I haven't seen for far too long a time, but that is another story. Right. on my todo list then.

11-08-2013, 11:01 PM	#57
brianinmaine Evangelist Posts: 456 Karma: 1287375 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Gardiner, Maine Device: Touch (5.3.7)	Nicely done. perfect tutorial. curious - what do you see as a benefit to optware-like images vs. native programs in extensions? Do you intend a full X environment? <- still having problems with that by the way I like being able to just rip it from debian to run it native, I suppose in a dream world you could make it mount a main image and just save changes like puppy linux does? matter of fact we could 'borrow' from tiny core linux or something to be able to install packages from the net?

11-08-2013, 11:15 PM	#58
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	on the kindle 3 as everything is framebuffer based many of the "odd" titling issues associated with the kindle touches Awesome just don't apply. So, yes no problem ripping this stuff/ running it native, but this is a handy way to "get something to rip". of course that also has overhead associated with duplicate libs that the kual-system was/is aiming to sure in the medium term... I did consider many times over a package maintenance system, perhaps when we have a big enough list if apps to warrant such a thing... and more metadata in the packages themselves...

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07-27-2016, 02:56 PM	#60
12v Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2016 Device: K3G	Hi all. I was curious if anyone has gotten the newer optware-ng running in place of the old optware. I'm only not sure it would work because it appears to be compiled for v5 and v7 ARM cpus at this time. AFAIK the kindle runs a v6 compatible cpu. I might be mistaken. I'm not super familiar with ARM architectures and compatibility. According to optware, ng is now official: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/HomePage official optware-ng packages http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/optware-ng/