Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Tolino

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-11-2018, 01:54 PM   #1
taos
Connoisseur
taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.taos can tame squirrels without the assistance of a chair or a whip.
 
Posts: 69
Karma: 11069
Join Date: Feb 2012
Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Glo HD
New Tolino Shine 3 - a Kobo Clara clone?

It seems there's a new Tolino 6'' model: https://mytolino.com/tolino-shine-3/ebook-reader/. Just going by the pictures and specifications, it looks very similar to the (relatively) new Kobo Clara. If those models also actually share their internals this might be another chance to get either a Linux system running on the Tolino or Android on the Kobo...
taos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2018, 09:26 PM   #2
rcentros
eReader Wrangler
rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rcentros's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,508
Karma: 16363232
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW, TX
Device: Old, non-front-lit eReaders. Nooks, Kindles, Sonys, Kobos and Others
Quote:
Originally Posted by taos View Post
It seems there's a new Tolino 6'' model: https://mytolino.com/tolino-shine-3/ebook-reader/. Just going by the pictures and specifications, it looks very similar to the (relatively) new Kobo Clara. If those models also actually share their internals this might be another chance to get either a Linux system running on the Tolino or Android on the Kobo...
The size and weight specs are identical. I wonder if they've got the light bleed problem solved in this one?

EDIT: It looks like the software version is 12.0 on the update page — something completely new.

Last edited by rcentros; 10-11-2018 at 09:43 PM.
rcentros is online now   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 10-12-2018, 12:26 AM   #3
davidfor
Grand Sorcerer
davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 15,464
Karma: 25374506
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo,Aura H2O,Glo HD,Aura ONE,Clara HD,Forma;tolino epos
Yes, it does look like the Clara HD.

And there is an interesting thing with the photos. The photos of the open book in the gallery looks like the tolino - bookmark icon at the top and page as "n/y". But, the page shown in the 360 view looks like the Kobo kepub reader - title at the top and the page shows as "Chapter - Page x of y".

I don't know if we should take that as a sign, or if tolino should hire someone new for their photos.
davidfor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 12:48 AM   #4
k_men
Junior Member
k_men began at the beginning.
 
k_men's Avatar
 
Posts: 3
Karma: 10
Join Date: Aug 2018
Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Fire HD 2013
Well, last year Rakuten-Kobo entered the Tolino Alliance, with Kobo taking over their hardware production. In turn, Kobo retired their own ereaders from the German market. In short: Tolinos are Tolinos, but they are now produced by Kobo.

This is, indeed the Kobo Clara HD screen and body - but with Tolino's firmware (Android-based). Interestingly, it's a tad cheaper than the Clara. Someone should check whether the firmwares are interchangeable.
k_men is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 12:52 AM   #5
rcentros
eReader Wrangler
rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rcentros's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,508
Karma: 16363232
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW, TX
Device: Old, non-front-lit eReaders. Nooks, Kindles, Sonys, Kobos and Others
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidfor View Post
Yes, it does look like the Clara HD.

And there is an interesting thing with the photos. The photos of the open book in the gallery looks like the tolino - bookmark icon at the top and page as "n/y". But, the page shown in the 360 view looks like the Kobo kepub reader - title at the top and the page shows as "Chapter - Page x of y".

I don't know if we should take that as a sign, or if tolino should hire someone new for their photos.
You're right. But this "hands-on" review shows the traditional Tolino page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV-JQpSMaRQ
rcentros is online now   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 10-12-2018, 03:48 AM   #6
beedaddy
Connoisseur
beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!beedaddy rocks like Gibraltar!
 
beedaddy's Avatar
 
Posts: 77
Karma: 100964
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Germany (south-west)
Device: tolino shine 3
@davidfor About the photos... Well, now that you say it... That's a really funny detail.
(But just in case someone doesn't know: Kobo is the technical partner of the tolino alliance.)
beedaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 02:32 PM   #7
DaleDe
Grand Sorcerer
DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DaleDe's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,062
Karma: 12294898
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Grass Valley, CA
Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7
I have created a Tolino Shine 3 wiki page that shares the Kobo Clara page.

Dale
DaleDe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 05:07 PM   #8
rcentros
eReader Wrangler
rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rcentros's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,508
Karma: 16363232
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW, TX
Device: Old, non-front-lit eReaders. Nooks, Kindles, Sonys, Kobos and Others
Quote:
Originally Posted by beedaddy View Post
(But just in case someone doesn't know: Kobo is the technical partner of the tolino alliance.)
And I think Longshine has been making readers for both companies from the beginning. (At least that's the way it looks when see tear-down pictures of Kobos and Tolinos.)

And the Longshine Shinebook looked a lot like the the original Kobo / Kobo Wireless. The size and weight specs are close (but not exact).
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	shinebook.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	65.3 KB
ID:	166874  
rcentros is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 05:58 PM   #9
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,096
Karma: 19196223
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcentros View Post
And I think Longshine has been making readers for both companies from the beginning. (At least that's the way it looks when see tear-down pictures of Kobos and Tolinos.)

And the Longshine Shinebook looked a lot like the the original Kobo / Kobo Wireless. The size and weight specs are close (but not exact).
That's because both the original Kobo and the Shinebook use a really old Netronix design. Bookeen also used it in 2007-2010, and so did Foxit and other companies.

FYI: All of the hardware we are talking about in this thread was made by Netronix, a Taiwan company.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 08:21 PM   #10
rcentros
eReader Wrangler
rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rcentros's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,508
Karma: 16363232
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW, TX
Device: Old, non-front-lit eReaders. Nooks, Kindles, Sonys, Kobos and Others
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
That's because both the original Kobo and the Shinebook use a really old Netronix design. Bookeen also used it in 2007-2010, and so did Foxit and other companies.

FYI: All of the hardware we are talking about in this thread was made by Netronix, a Taiwan company.
Okay, so where does Longshine come in? They're also based in Taiwan and are listed as the manufacturer of the Tolinos in the German Wikis for the devices? In Germany and Italy, Longshine also services the Tolinos. Does this mean that Longshine is a "go-between" for Netronix and Tolino? Maybe they're the ones who develop the firmware?

I was able to find a Netronix EB-600 (and even a Pocketbook 301+), an eSlick Foxit (and many others) — I wonder how many there were based on this design? it looks like Netronix still builds modern eReaders under their name as well.

Sorry to ramble.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	PocketBook301.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	207.6 KB
ID:	166886   Click image for larger version

Name:	4317539133_8e6cfb84ee.jpg
Views:	40
Size:	104.6 KB
ID:	166887   Click image for larger version

Name:	Cybook_Gen3_02.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	116.4 KB
ID:	166888   Click image for larger version

Name:	Viewsonic_veb612_01.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	50.7 KB
ID:	166889  
rcentros is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 04:59 PM   #11
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,096
Karma: 19196223
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcentros View Post
Okay, so where does Longshine come in? They're also based in Taiwan and are listed as the manufacturer of the Tolinos in the German Wikis for the devices? In Germany and Italy, Longshine also services the Tolinos. Does this mean that Longshine is a "go-between" for Netronix and Tolino? Maybe they're the ones who develop the firmware?

I was able to find a Netronix EB-600 (and even a Pocketbook 301+), an eSlick Foxit (and many others) — I wonder how many there were based on this design? it looks like Netronix still builds modern eReaders under their name as well.

Sorry to ramble.
I am not quite sure the relationship between Longshine and Netronix, but I do know that Netronix makes both Kobo and B&N hardware.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 06:37 PM   #12
rcentros
eReader Wrangler
rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rcentros's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,508
Karma: 16363232
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW, TX
Device: Old, non-front-lit eReaders. Nooks, Kindles, Sonys, Kobos and Others
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
I am not quite sure the relationship between Longshine and Netronix, but I do know that Netronix makes both Kobo and B&N hardware.
Doing a little research I saw that one of the bigwigs at Netronix also has some kind of position at Longshine. But that could just be coincidence, I would imagine businessmen in Taiwan routinely sit on several corporate boards — like they do in the U.S. I'm guessing Longshine is probably the company that writes the firmware for the Tolinos. It might not even be the main company, it might just be their German branch, Longshine Technologie GmbH.

https://www.longshine.de/index.php/en/tolino-eng-reader

Last edited by rcentros; 10-14-2018 at 06:42 PM.
rcentros is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 06:50 PM   #13
JSWolf
Resident Curmudgeon
JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JSWolf's Avatar
 
Posts: 52,410
Karma: 47520171
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Sony PRS-650, Sony PRS-T1, nook STR, iPad 4, iPhone 5
Why would we want a Reader that doesn't understand indents?

JSWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 08:02 PM   #14
DNSB
Bibliophagist
DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DNSB's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,115
Karma: 21825480
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Aura One, Aura H2O, Aura HD, Nexus 7 HD, iPad Air, Tolino epos
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
Why would we want a Reader that doesn't understand indents?
I don't know about your Tolino but my Tolino epos understands that the first paragraph in a chapter is not indented and the remaining paragraphs are indented. Ooopppssss... actually that is set by the stylesheet and here I was thinking it was reading my mind.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	screenshot_20181014_160006.png
Views:	37
Size:	196.7 KB
ID:	166920  

Last edited by DNSB; 10-16-2018 at 12:41 AM.
DNSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2018, 02:47 AM   #15
rcentros
eReader Wrangler
rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rcentros ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rcentros's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,508
Karma: 16363232
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW, TX
Device: Old, non-front-lit eReaders. Nooks, Kindles, Sonys, Kobos and Others
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
Why would we want a Reader that doesn't understand indents?
It handles indents fine. I don't know why they're showing a book without them or without spaces between the paragraphs.

Here's a hands-on review. Definitely shows indents. (You have to get about half-way through the video before the reviewer finally turns it on.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV-JQpSMaRQ
rcentros is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tolino Shine English Dictionary five. Tolino 3 03-30-2018 05:55 AM
Kobo Aura 2 vs. Tolino Shine 2HD: 212ppi vs 300ppi swapjim Which one should I buy? 66 02-22-2018 08:43 PM
Tolino Shine 2 HD or Kobo Glo Hd or Pocketbook Lux 3 or Bookeen Monny Which one should I buy? 2 08-18-2016 03:49 AM
Kobo Glo, Tolino Shine oder PW? jineapple Andere Lesegeräte 4 02-05-2015 06:56 AM
Tolino Shine Update 1.3 hamlok Andere Lesegeräte 0 11-19-2013 12:34 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:20 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.