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Old 08-04-2012, 06:47 PM   #16
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I actually did like W2K, and XP. and 7. But 8. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! (I'm an OSX user, if it makes any difference. Made the switch when XP was still the go, but have kept abreast of development because of my non-tech friends who still expect that I can fix their computer issues. It will stop with Windows 8, which I will never get.)
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:07 PM   #17
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I actually did like W2K, and XP. and 7. But 8. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! (I'm an OSX user, if it makes any difference. Made the switch when XP was still the go, but have kept abreast of development because of my non-tech friends who still expect that I can fix their computer issues. It will stop with Windows 8, which I will never get.)
You are not giving me a "comfy" feeling.

I was hoping W8 would be the answer.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:18 PM   #18
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It was a horrible name anyway.
So was the failure called Zune
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:56 PM   #19
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I think Metro is not a bad name... ie... subways...connections...etc.. but as far as I know Metro was not to be the final name and is only the code name at this point. I would suggest windows Infinity since the number 8 on its side indicates "infinity". However, suing and patent wars would follow from whatever company has that name.

I hope Windows 8 does well.... seems like the Jury has already decided in many corners of the Net that it will fail.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:59 PM   #20
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Trademarks are registered for specific fields, and two (or more) companies can use the same trademarked name in different fields.
That's the part that I don't get. The article is mostly speculation, since Microsoft didn't release many details and Metro AG didn't comment, but I don't see how Microsoft's use of Metro would dilute the retailer's use of it. Which I think is the issue here since Metro is a common word (in several languages).
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:55 AM   #21
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Well, look at Apple Records vs Apple Computers. They were originally in completely different fields, but there was trouble.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_C...Apple_Computer

So who knows?

But I think part of it is that there has been some backlash against Metro in PC gaming news lately. The head of Steam has been talking about possibly moving to Linux eventually because of Metro and Windows 8. Some bigwig at Blizzard agreed with him about the problems (if not the moving).

I mean, it's essentially trying to take the regular Windows UI that people have been using since well, Windows existed, and turn it into something aimed at touchscreens (or ironically, AOL from the mid 90s). Desktop PCs and touchscreens just don't really mix well, yet MS is going to try to shove it down people's throats. It's possible they are having second thoughts about it.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:54 AM   #22
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I'm so glad I gave in and bought a new (Windows 7) laptop a week ago. And it's painful enough IMO getting used to the Win7 changes from XP. If Win8 is as painful as it sounds, I think I might actually give up and switch to Linux after all!
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:00 AM   #23
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I actually did like W2K, and XP. and 7. But 8. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! (I'm an OSX user, if it makes any difference. Made the switch when XP was still the go, but have kept abreast of development because of my non-tech friends who still expect that I can fix their computer issues. It will stop with Windows 8, which I will never get.)
How much have you actually USED Windows 8 as a matter of interest? I have the "consumer preview" version installed on an old laptop and I rather like it.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:15 AM   #24
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What does Metro mean? I always thought it's the name of a metropolitan paper or a new subway system.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:22 AM   #25
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It doesn't mean anything; all development projects have "code names" and this was the one that Microsoft chose for the Windows 8 UI.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:08 AM   #26
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How much have you actually USED Windows 8 as a matter of interest? I have the "consumer preview" version installed on an old laptop and I rather like it.
Are there any particular advantages over Win7 in your experience?

I was pretty much dead set against it, due to that awful, dreadful, hateful UI, but as I see there are now third party programs available which will remove it for you entirely I may just give it a whirl.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:38 AM   #27
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It's "evolutionary" rather than "revolutionary", but there are lots of new features, which are nicely summarised in this Wiki page. The new UI makes it much easier to find things than the "Start" menu, to my mind, and you can still run apps on the old Windows desktop if you wish to.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:40 PM   #28
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It doesn't mean anything; all development projects have "code names" and this was the one that Microsoft chose for the Windows 8 UI.
Correct.
They usually have multiple code names for a single product during development.
For example, Chicago was the code name of the expected Windows 4 that became Windows 95.
Memphis was the codename for the expected Windows 4.1 that became instead Windows 97 and released as Windows 98.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...soft_codenames
They even recycle code names, so Metro was originally the code name for the Open XML Paper specification before it became the name of the WinPhone Gui style.
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How much have you actually USED Windows 8 as a matter of interest? I have the "consumer preview" version installed on an old laptop and I rather like it.
Mojave is my favorite release of Windows.

I'm not sure Metro or Zune is worse than iPod or Sansa, frankly. Marketing people are special creatures.

If suspect that a lot of people would love the Zune if you put an Apple on the cover and left it at a bar somewhere.
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Mojave is my favorite release of Windows. (...) If suspect that a lot of people would love the Zune if you put an Apple on the cover and left it at a bar somewhere.
I think the best approach is to skip Windows 8 and wait for 9, for the same reason that it was a good idea to skip Vista and wait for 7. It isn't that there is anything wrong with 8 or Vista. It's just that Microsoft is making some significant changes and it is going to take developers time to adapt to those changes. It also takes Microsoft some time to figure out what works and what doesn't work, then to make appropriate changes. In other words, let other people deal with the hiccups and only pay for the product when it is ready.
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