08-13-2008, 03:54 AM | #526 | |
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Tell me how to compensate the author in a reasonable way while at the same time not keeping a broken system chugging along, and I will be right there. I think a lot of people will. And, yes, there will be people who simply take without ever wanting or intending to pay. There is no way to stop them, and in the world of the digital, there never will be. But people like you and Steven seem to think that left unchecked and without your finger-wagging, soon everyone will do it. Which simply isn't true. |
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08-13-2008, 04:12 AM | #527 | |
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Forget the "printing" aspect of books - that's really rather a "red herring". Very few publishers (if any) print their own books, anyway. What publishers do is edit books, publicise them, and 1001 other things that the typical reader is probably completely unaware of. Authors need publishers, and digital distribution doesn't change that. You ask "how to compensate the author in a reasonable way" and I'll answer - "buy the book". If there's a legit eBook available, buy it. If there isn't, buy the pBook and write to the publisher to tell them that you've done so, but you'd much rather have bought an eBook. We're all (presumably) eBook fans here; the way to demonstrate that is to support the legitimate eBook industry, and let authors and publishers know that we want more eBooks available. This isn't "finger wagging", but common sense . |
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08-13-2008, 04:19 AM | #528 | |
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And how is telling people they are corrupt and immoral not finger wagging? I think Steve added the implied notion that our brains weren't working at some point in the thread as well. Last edited by acidzebra; 08-13-2008 at 04:31 AM. |
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08-13-2008, 04:45 AM | #531 | |
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To come back shortly to broken systems, what do you think of companies like Disney who take most of their stories FROM the public domain and then turn around and try to make sure their work won't end up there anytime soon, preferably never? What of the fact that they are partly succeeding (copyright extensions)? |
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08-13-2008, 04:54 AM | #532 | |
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There's nothing wrong, however, in "taking" stuff from the public domain. The whole point of the public domain is that anyone can do anything with anything in it, including reselling it commercially, etc. If you want to take a Shakespeare play from the public domain and publish it commercially, that's perfectly legal. |
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http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01...amendment-time http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...tection_en.htm http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...extension.html Quote:
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08-13-2008, 10:33 AM | #534 | |
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BTW, I'm willing to pay a lot more for a good book (just spent 165€ on a particularly good edition of the Divine Comedy, which is PD), and no more than 2€ for a crappy one (like, say, Dan Brown or Lee Child). So, maybe, I'm willing to pay more than you ask for. As an hobby photographer, sometimes I'm asked to sell my photos. I've put a limit of income to 500€ a year. So, when I sold 100 photos or copies at 5€ each or two of them at 250€, they will become immediately free for everybody, even if there are other 100 people in queue with money in their hand. [I'm not there, yet...] That's what I mean by to have a limit. I understand your books will never do "enough" if somebody agrees to pay for them. They'll be PD in about two centuries from now... and it's not unfair at all. It's just another effect of the force who drives piracy (which, in contrast, is a crime in my country). |
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08-13-2008, 10:38 AM | #535 |
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For what it's worth, I'm a socialist too, but I live in a world in which authors I know personally-- published authors with books on the NY Times Bestseller List-- do things like file for bankruptcy and go to Mexico for critical surgery because they can't afford to be treated in the US. I would like to live in a world in which people who tell great stories don't have to worry about food, a place to live, and adequate health care. Heck, I'd like to live in a world in which no one has to worry about these things. But I don't. I live in a world in which most people seem pretty attached to the idea of ownership, wealth is unevenly distributed to the point of being ludicrous, and good authors (and other artists, and people who support them, like editors) can go hungry all too easily.
Given those things, I don't think it's right to read books without being part of a system that pays for them. You can get creative about how you pay back, of course. Set up a CafePress t-shirt store for your favorite author, or an Amazon store so they might start to get a cut of even used book sales. Campaign your local library to buy their books, or buy copies of books and donate them to the library. See if you can get one of their books added to the reading list for a course at your local school or college. Get together with like-minded folks in your area and raise money to invite your author out for a book-signing and speaking engagement. Send cash. Or even cookies. If you can't afford to do any of those things, consider at least writing your favorite author a postcard saying how much you enjoy their books. That won't pay the rent, but kind words do help one keep warm nights. And make a commitment to yourself that someday, when you can afford it, you will sponsor authors or other artists, to the extent that you can afford it. Or ignore all this advice. I'm talking about my own ethics here, after all. As HarryT points out, these are decisions we all have to make individually. |
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So... what did make them penniless? I can take a few guesses (it would end up being filed under 'broken system') but it would be just that, guesses - and you know these people. Last edited by acidzebra; 08-13-2008 at 11:10 AM. |
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It isn't free. You pay what most Americans would say is shockingly high taxes for your welfare state.
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08-13-2008, 11:34 AM | #539 |
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TANSTAAFL!!
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08-13-2008, 12:11 PM | #540 |
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Very true, but I honestly can't think of anything more worthy of paying taxes for. Certainly far better (IMHO) to spend tax money on building hospitals than bombs.
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