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Old 10-03-2009, 06:49 PM   #16
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Does the iPod Touch run OSX?
Officially it runs "iPhone OS". Though like OS X this uses Darwin kernel.
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I don't think this 'ebook publisher' know anything special, he is just voicing his opinion. It's not like this info is coming from a major publisher who Apple would have had to contact.
I still think it's coming out Jan 2010 and will light a fire under Amazon/Sony/ASUS's behinds.
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Officially it runs "iPhone OS". Though like OS X this uses Darwin kernel.
I thought it was "iPhone OS X" as opposed to "Mac OS X"...
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I don't think this 'ebook publisher' know anything special, he is just voicing his opinion. It's not like this info is coming from a major publisher who Apple would have had to contact.
I still think it's coming out Jan 2010 and will light a fire under Amazon/Sony/ASUS's behinds.
If Apple do bring out an ebook reader two things will make people buy it; Firstly the marketing, which will make it sound as though this is the first ebook reader ever made. And secondly all the bloody fanboi's.
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I thought it was "iPhone OS X" as opposed to "Mac OS X"...
Nope, just "iPhone OS". Though while still in development it was often referred to as OS X.
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Well, most of the system frameworks functions for Mac OS X and iPhone OS are the same, compiler is the same (gcc), IDE is the same (usually XCode), and you can write many fairly low-level applications that will compile for both systems with little or no change in code.
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If Apple do bring out an ebook reader two things will make people buy it; Firstly the marketing, which will make it sound as though this is the first ebook reader ever made. And secondly all the bloody fanboi's.
They are marketing geniuses that's for certain. However we get some nice benefits if Apple does bring this product to market - the bargaining power apple could use with publishers.

They have a lot of oomph in regards to market share in the media sector. They bargain wirh TV/Music/Movie companies on a regular basis and retail millions (billions?) of dollars of media via itunes.

If they create a reader it may give publishers more incentive to get their act together and start offering global publishing licenses and cash in via itunes instead of this regional mess we currently have.

They will also be able to package ebooks with other media.

Also we know Apple makes great hardware, they dominate the smartphone and mp3 player industries after entering them with no market share and crushing the competition. The device would be color, touchscreen, use iphone apps, have google docs, google maps, internet, would act as a portable media player for tv/movies, would have blu-tooth (probably). Everyone gets so excited about it because the technology is at a stage where you can have a computer in your pocket.

So compared to the other 'ebook readers' which are grey screen and very old school it will be light years ahead. People will buy it for mobile computing and suddenly everyone will have an e-book device in their pocket (a more practical one than the iphone). Publishers will want the new sales and flock to it imo.
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They have a lot of oomph in regards to market share in the media sector. They bargain wirh TV/Music/Movie companies on a regular basis and retail millions (billions?) of dollars of media via itunes.

If they create a reader it may give publishers more incentive to get their act together and start offering global publishing licenses and cash in via itunes instead of this regional mess we currently have.
This would only actually be a benefit if they don't go an do something stupid like trying to introduce their own ebook format.


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Also we know Apple makes great hardware, they dominate the smartphone and mp3 player industries after entering them with no market share and crushing the competition.
Firstly, they do no dominate the smartphone market unless you decide to use some random stat like web traffic and the fact that so many believe they do is a credit to their marketing dept for convincing people it's true.

Secondly, it wasn't the quality of the hardware that helped them do so well with the ipod, it was having the total package of good looking hardware, the comparative ease of use from itunes for synching and the itunes store for buying content.
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This would only actually be a benefit if they don't go an do something stupid like trying to introduce their own ebook format.
Which of course they will, or at least their own DRM, and it will instantly become the defacto standard!

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Which of course they will, or at least their own DRM, and it will instantly become the defacto standard!
Currently they use MP4 (Other known names: ACC and M4A) without DRM for iTunes. That's an ISO standard.

For OS X, iLive, iWork I did not even have to type in a silly registration key. Apple is not the DRM junky everybody thinks they are.

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They are marketing geniuses that's for certain. However we get some nice benefits if Apple does bring this product to market - the bargaining power apple could use with publishers.

They have a lot of oomph in regards to market share in the media sector. They bargain wirh TV/Music/Movie companies on a regular basis and retail millions (billions?) of dollars of media via itunes.
... And a new restrictive ebook format is born...


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Also we know Apple makes great hardware
...Exploding ipods/iphones/itouch's...

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they dominate the smartphone and mp3 player industries after entering them with no market share and crushing the competition.
Crushing competition is not a good thing. We want to encourage competition.

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The device would be color, touchscreen, use iphone apps, have google docs, google maps, internet, would act as a portable media player for tv/movies, would have blu-tooth (probably). Everyone gets so excited about it because the technology is at a stage where you can have a computer in your pocket.
So it's not an ebook reader then.

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So compared to the other 'ebook readers' which are grey screen and very old school it will be light years ahead. People will buy it for mobile computing and suddenly everyone will have an e-book device in their pocket (a more practical one than the iphone). Publishers will want the new sales and flock to it imo.
Not sure how an ebook reader that works as an ebook reader is 'old school'. And how you can say it will be light years ahead when not even a demo unit has been seen.

By the sounds of it the "all singing all dancing Iphone on steroids" if it is ever made, will be the thing for you. But it definitely isn't for me, I want to be able to put what I want on my gadgets and not what a company tells me it will allow.
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Currently they use MP4 (Other known names: ACC and M4A) without DRM for iTunes. That's an ISO standard.

For OS X, iLive, iWork I did not even have to type in a silly registration key. Apple is not the DRM junky everybody thinks they are.

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Really ? You can't get you songs back from you iPod without iTunes... That's DRM for sure.
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Really ? You can't get your songs back from your iPod without iTunes... That's DRM for sure.
You can, just isn't immediately obvious how. Really isn't that complicated though.
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Really ? You can't get you songs back from you iPod without iTunes... That's DRM for sure.
That is not DRM at all - it's just a communication protocol - completely different things. Just about as different as break liquid and coolant in a car. And if you don't know the difference I suggest you don't try to service your car yourself and keep very quite at the local car owners club.

Apart from that I don't actually own an iPod and I can play my iTunes perfectly well without iTunes (there is a company ban on iTunes so I use something else i.E. foobar, winamp or dbpoweramp will do). Songs from iTunes also plays on a Sony PRS 505 (not that I want to).

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