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Old 01-18-2021, 02:57 PM   #1
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Sync PC Kindle with Kindle and IPad Kindle?

I’ve just installed PC Kindle and Calibre to work on MOBI and EPUB books from a friend. What is the recommendation of more experienced users as to the best way to manage my library from now on? If I do so on the PC, can I sync that so that the other devices have identical libraries? How about Calibre, is that also a candidate for book management please?

In short, I’d appreciate any practical advice please.

For background I have about 450 books bought over the years from Amazon UK, which I read mainly on my KB Kindle and iPad. They are not well organised!

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Old 01-18-2021, 03:51 PM   #2
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Kindle eBooks will never be well organized as Kindle apps and Kindle Readers don't do eBook organization well at all.
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I easily manage all my eBooks with Calibre, no matter where purchased. I sync with my Kindle Paperwhite via Calibre. I'm not sure if Calibre will sync with Kindle Fire or with iPad, as I haven't tried those. For sheer organization ability, and having all my books in one place on my PC, Calibre makes this librarian a happy reader.
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Basically you have two options:

1. Calibre. Library management is excellent, but no syncing between different apps and devices.

2. Amazon Cloud. No library management to speak of, but syncing between different Kindle apps and Kindle devices.

Unfortunately you cannot have both, good library management and syncing between different devices.
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Kindle eBooks will never be well organized as Kindle apps and Kindle Readers don't do eBook organization well at all.
They can be perfectly well organized in Calibre. Of course you lose syncing then.
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Thanks all, appreciate those helpful replies. Disappointed but not too surprised to hear that Calibre cannot sync to iOS devices. But can PC Kindle do so?
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Thanks all, appreciate those helpful replies. Disappointed but not too surprised to hear that Calibre cannot sync to iOS devices. But can PC Kindle do so?
In what way do you mean? Reading progress, yes, but only for books directly downloaded from Amazon. Collections, I'm not sure. I think not, but I may be wrong.

Edit: For Calibre and iOS, there's the Calibre Companion app. Look it up. I don't think it can sync reading progress between PC and iPad, though.

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Thanks all, appreciate those helpful replies. Disappointed but not too surprised to hear that Calibre cannot sync to iOS devices. But can PC Kindle do so?
Unfortunately, it looks like Kindle for PC doesn't use the collections from the cloud, so the collections won't sync.

That being said, reading position and annotations/bookmarks will still sync using Kindle for PC, and collections from iOS, Android, Fire devices, and e-ink Kindles will all sync with the collections in your Kindle cloud.

I don't think any of these will sync with Calibre, though...sorry. It is pretty easy to manage your collections from your Contents and Devices page on the Amazon website, and then you can use those on your iOS devices.

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So even if I'd put the same azw3 file on two kindles it won't do an md5 hash (or similar) and sync the reading progress?
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So even if I'd put the same azw3 file on two kindles it won't do an md5 hash (or similar) and sync the reading progress?
No. You'd have to send the book to the Kindle Cloud via email or the Send-to-Kindle app. But those won't accept azw3. There are ways around that, but they don't always work.
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No. You'd have to send the book to the Kindle Cloud via email or the Send-to-Kindle app. But those won't accept azw3. There are ways around that, but they don't always work.
Yeah, it'll convert to mobi and it may affect formatting. Not a big fan.
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Yeah, it'll convert to mobi and it may affect formatting. Not a big fan.
You can create a dual mobi using Calibre and send that via email or send to kindle app, that way azw3 (kf8) format will be delivered to the device when downloaded from the cloud.

To get a dual mobi, in the Calibre conversion options, go to MOBI output and under MOBI file type choose "both"

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You can preserve formatting by converting to EPUB with kindleunpack, then using kindlegen to make a dual mobi.
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You can create a dual mobi using Calibre and send that via email or send to kindle app, that way azw3 (kf8) format will be delivered to the device when downloaded from the cloud.

To get a dual mobi, in the Calibre conversion options, go to MOBI output and under MOBI file type choose "both"

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Interesting, I need to play around with that. Thank you!
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Kindle Previewer automatically generates dual-format mobi, if I export the book in this format. Interesting.
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