Is Amazon deleting side loaded books?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

The poster you're both referring to said explicitly they're using the Books app on a Mac and iPhone, not a Kindle, and they're downloading .acsm files, hence not Amazon ebooks. Their issue has actually nothing to do with Amazon or this thread.

The OP also said that he gets a Mobi file. That would mean (to me) that he may be sending to a Kindle and it's doing the conversion based on the first Kindle format in the list.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The OP also said that he gets a Mobi file. That would mean (to me) that he may be sending to a Kindle and it's doing the conversion based on the first Kindle format in the list.

They said nothing about a Kindle. Yes, the mobi thing is weird. So is epubs automagically vanishing. Something is really wrong there, or the OP left something unsaid.

[endriu]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Amazon is not deleting side-loaded eBooks. If Amazon was doing this, there would be a major outcry and we'd have more then 1 post on MR about this.

Yes it does. Happened to me yesterday, when I turned on the Wi-Fi (for some articles sent using Send to kindle extension to be downloaded). I was left with empty author folders under /documents

[slm]

But are the books still openable on the Kindle?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by endriu

Yes it does. Happened to me yesterday, when I turned on the Wi-Fi (for some articles sent using Send to kindle extension to be downloaded). I was left with empty author folders under /documents

If you use Calibre to side load and you've not changed the default template and you delete from the Kindle using the Kindle' software, you will eventually end up with empty author directories.

[HLS]

you can download all your ebooks it just takes a while. you don't need to do 25 at a time i do about 200 at a time

[endriu]

Originally Posted by slm

But are the books still openable on the Kindle?

No, they are all gone.

[endriu]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you use Calibre to side load and you've not changed the default template and you delete from the Kindle using the Kindle' software, you will eventually end up with empty author directories.

I DID NOT delete anything. Just turned on the Wi-Fi. Why is it so hard to grasp?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by endriu

I DID NOT delete anything. Just turned on the Wi-Fi. Why is it so hard to grasp?

What I said is one way to get empty author directories.

If Amazon is deleting side loaded eBooks, keep WiFi off.

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If Amazon is deleting side loaded eBooks, keep WiFi off.

[talespin]

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

By default, if you haven't changed things, calibre will convert Epub files to Mobi upon sending them to your Kindle. So the mobi file is the only thing sent to your Kindle from calibre.

Thank you for your reply. First off, I have absolutely no idea what things I could change. Second, I don’t have a Kindle. The flow is public library -> acsm -> MacBook -> Adobe Reader -> calibre -> Books app. No Kindle involved.

This doesn’t bother me, because the books remain in the Books library on my MacBook and I can convert the mobi in my calibre library to an epub if I need to. This was just something I noticed that I didn’t understand.

[hengyu]

Same thing just happened to me, turned on WiFi, lost hundreds of sideloaded books.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by hengyu

Same thing just happened to me, turned on WiFi, lost hundreds of sideloaded books.

There is a very simple solution. Do not turn on WiFi.

There's another partial solution should you want or need to turn on WiFi. Use calibre with the Reading List plugin. You create a Y/N column. Then the Reading list plugin will allow you to populate the column based on the books on your Kindle. So if you ever have books removed, you'll know what was on the Kindle and can easily put them back. I have this very same setup for my Libra 2. The column gets a Y if the book is on the Reader and emptied when the book has been removed. Simple really.

[Byrdie]

Well, I haven't had it happen ::crosses fingers:: at least not yet. Turned on WiFi just this morning and all my sideloaded books are right there in my Documents folder. I've been using Send To Kindle to get them on my Paperwhite, does that make a difference? Or is this happening no matter which method is used?

Am on my first Kindle, still trying to figure out how to sort books into shelves or collections or whatever like they are on my Kobo. Most of what's on it are direct freebies/purchases/Kindle Unlimited loans from Amazon. There are many (too many!) books that I got from other stores, giveaways and fanfiction sites all waiting to be added but if they're going to get zapped by whatever's hitting some people's Kindles ... that's a thing I'd like to avoid.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Byrdie

Well, I haven't had it happen ::crosses fingers:: at least not yet. Turned on WiFi just this morning and all my sideloaded books are right there in my Documents folder. I've been using Send To Kindle to get them on my Paperwhite, does that make a difference? Or is this happening no matter which method is used?

Am on my first Kindle, still trying to figure out how to sort books into shelves or collections or whatever like they are on my Kobo. Most of what's on it are direct freebies/purchases/Kindle Unlimited loans from Amazon. There are many (too many!) books that I got from other stores, giveaways and fanfiction sites all waiting to be added but if they're going to get zapped by whatever's hitting some people's Kindles ... that's a thing I'd like to avoid.

Send to Kindle is not affected. Only books sideloaded via USB seem to disappear.