09-10-2021, 10:17 AM | #1 |
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Clickers, love 'em or hate 'em
I think that I like them, but they do have their problems.
There are the little two button clickers designed for selfies. Unfortunately it's not easy to make the two buttons do something useful like forward/back. Even with multi-button clickers I'm sure you'll have some buttons that are useless. The big problem with the little clickers is that they usually? have a one minute timeout before they sleep. If you read a page a minute (and don't space out thinking about something) you might not notice. If the clicker sleeps you will need to click twice, once to wakeup, once to turn the page. One of my big beefs is that many clickers present themselves as a qwerty keyboard. You'll see an "A" in the status bar to show that you have a real qwerty keyboard connected and don't need an on-screen keyboard. Ok, there are work-arounds for this, but it's still annoying. Android uses the capability to send a "Q" as the definition of a qwerty. Some clickers get sloppy and say, "I can send every character!" when they can't. I bought a Chinese $1 clicker and found that it had an EEPROM in it which configures it. So I ordered a dozen and got the same exteriors but no EEPROM inside. Another annoying thing is that the Bluetooth names are something stupid. I just bought a new 5 way clicker. Out of the box it worked fine, but it said it was a qwerty. So I did what anybody would do:
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09-10-2021, 12:40 PM | #2 |
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I don't go to the trouble of doing this, I use the Boox Remoter for my Note Air
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09-10-2021, 01:08 PM | #3 | |
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Why, it's no trouble at all!
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Edit: BTW, when you use the Boox Remoter do you get an "A" on the status bar? Last edited by Renate; 09-10-2021 at 01:20 PM. |
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09-10-2021, 01:52 PM | #4 | |
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It is recognized as a remote - not a keyboard. |
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09-12-2021, 02:50 PM | #5 |
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I couldn't get the really stupid button to do something differerent. (It sends out Volume Up and Enter). But at least I have five buttons that I can assign. (Although they do have to remain Consumer Control.) As everybody's usage patterns differs, for me, page forward/back and menu callup/cancel is the important one. The menu goes to a bunch of stuff, but shows time and battery so I can do a quick check.
This is a wired remote I made for the B&N Glow2 so I could turn pages without taking my hands out from under the covers and freezing. I could reformat my Bluetooth one to fit in a case with such a keyboard (but no wire, obviously). The membrane switches got a bit taxing though. Maybe some Cherry keys? |
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09-24-2021, 10:01 AM | #6 |
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Apparently Onyx uses the F1-12 keycodes for functions on the Boox Remoter. I don't have one, but this is how the F keys affect the Poke3 at least.
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Key USB Code Function --- --- ---- --------------------- F1 3a 131 Menu F2 3b 132 Back F3 3c 133 Display control F4 3d 134 Full screen refresh F5 3e 135 Screenshot F6 3f 136 Toggle glowlight F7 40 137 (F7) F8 41 138 Home F9 42 139 Display control F10 43 140 Refresh settings F11 44 141 (F11) F12 45 142 Brightness adjustment Code:
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09-24-2021, 10:58 AM | #7 |
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@Renate
Thank you very much for such an invaluable finding! I don't have the Remoter, but I connected my mechanical PC keyboard via USB-A to USB-C dongle to my Kon-Tiki 2, and those F1-F12 keys work exactly as you described. "Display control" is the Contrast dialog for me. |
09-24-2021, 02:42 PM | #8 |
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If anybody wants to make a wired remote, you can follow the lead of mergen3107. If you go around on garbage night or visit your dump you can probably find an old keyboard for free. Take it apart, there is a small PCB that connects to the big translucent membrance sheets. Just short any of the two contacts that connect there and see what keycode gets generated. Now, get a cigar box, tuna fish can or enclosure of your choice. Mount switches to it and wire each of them to the two contacts you find that work. You could also make a footswitch.
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09-24-2021, 03:04 PM | #9 |
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For generic programmability there's the Puck.js; https://www.puck-js.com/
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09-24-2021, 03:55 PM | #10 | |
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09-24-2021, 04:05 PM | #11 |
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I confess that I have a poor opinion of javascript. Java, on the other hand, I worshiped.
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09-24-2021, 05:48 PM | #12 | |
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-$$Lambda$FloatingToolbar$FloatingToolbarPopup$-uEfRwR-_1oHxMvRVdmbNRdukDM.smali -$$Lambda$FloatingToolbar$FloatingToolbarPopup$13$7WTSUuAWkzil48e0QxuKTn0YOXI.smali -$$Lambda$FloatingToolbar$FloatingToolbarPopup$77YZy6kisO5OnjlgtKp0Zi1V8EY.smali WIP, my dev board for BLE. At least it pairs already. Everything else is fine-tuning. |
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How are you going to package your button gizmo? Do you have a 3d printer to make a case for it? |
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09-24-2021, 07:54 PM | #14 |
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I remembered I have Genius Media Pointer E540 for helping in presentations (*khm-khm* when I had such in pre-pandemic times), and it pairs with my Onyx via the USB-C dongle as well
However, there are only a few buttons recognized: - F5 (the one to the left from the yellow laser button) - acts as screenshot; - PgUp, PgDn in the middle - works well for turning pages in KOReader; - The actual "Tab" key with keycode 64 below those - I was able to only assign a single press action in Button Mapper. Maybe I should play with delays for double- and long-press in the Button mapper due to receiver delay, but I didn't test; - and a key in the bottom right, which interestingly does "Alt, then F4" - so basically refreshes the screen; - Other keys are "Unknown (0)" in Button Mapper and couldn't be remapped. Those F5 and F4 also could be reassigned I think, but I didn't try. This media pointer is from about 2014, so I don't know if it is available anywhere anymore. However, I think there are much more elegant solutions like this one, which comes with USB-C right away. If they use something down-to-earth/generic like PgUp, PgDn, etc, this could be very useful. I *think* Button Mapper does not need root to imitate keycode presses (because I have right now on keycodes and the root-access-granted popup doesn't show), so this might be useful to most of the users. |
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No, I don't have access (besides commercial services) to a 3D printer. |
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