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There's an ISO with SP1 slipstreamed at MS. Takes a while - and of course you have to download and apply all the post SP1 updates, There's a good tutorial at the Windows7 Forum. I ran it once on my system, it didn't fix my problem - then I realised what wasn't working was a so-called feature - all I had to do was to turn it off and on again. But Windows ran quite a lot faster after the in-place upgrade. Win 10 has something similar, can't remember what its called. BR |
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04-21-2016, 08:32 PM | #18 |
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I really REALLY wish that people would stop adding to threads like this with OS wars. Lets keep these to the LOUNGE.
Just because some of you are Windows | Linux zealots just not mean that everyone else should switch to YOUR preferred OS. Whats more you will never convince the other side to switch. |
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More on Chrome Apps here. I can't see Calibre being ported over to Chromebooks; I doubt it's even possible. The entire program would have to be re-written, and in a different programming language. However, there's no technical reason I'm aware of that a Chromebook couldn't run an ebook database/management app if one were created for it. Web SQL DB is available to Chrome, and thus Chrome Apps. Given Chromebooks' typically small local storage, ideally such an app would utilize cloud storage like Google Drive, Dropbox, or OneDrive. One huge advantage of such an app would be that it would be OS-agnostic, there'd be no need to create a Windows version, a Linux version, an iOS version, etc. If your OS can run Chrome, then it would have access to Chrome Apps. It could even be monetized (some apps in the Chrome Web Store have a price tag, and some require subscriptions). As someone who's recently given up on Windows and Linux (and has never touched an Apple product), I find all the "just run Windows" and "just install Linux" arguments insulting. I have a Chromebook and two Chromeboxes. Chrome devices are real computers. ChromeOS is a valid operating system (it's a specialized version of Linux based on Gentoo, and the Chrome Web Store is analogous to the Ubuntu Software Center). The fact that users currently have to resort to remoting into a Windows, Mac, or Linux computer or to installing Linux to do task X or Y is not a reflection on the capabilities of Chrome devices, but rather a reflection of the lack of software available for their device. Last edited by AndrewH; 04-22-2016 at 03:14 AM. Reason: stuff |
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People are doing it today with Calibre 2, with Calibre 3 the calibre-server will be significantly enhanced as per Post #3 Search for VPN in posts by chaley - he spelt out how he uses a VPN some time back. BR |
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@AndrewH,
Everything you said, I am aware of. And I gave the Cliff's Notes version in this thread. Rewriting the world in a different programming language is not a viable goal. That is why ChromeOS is still a toy outside the browser. "But technically..." If you want to feel insulted about people recomending Windows/Linux on the ground that no current ChromeApp fulfills their need, just imagine how insulted I feel when you: claim I am insulting you, then proceed to declare that really, ChromeOS is exactly what the OP needs, and it is merely a side point that "technically", no one has written a JS-based calibre port. And all I said was that you'll need to get into developer mode and activate Crouton if you want to run python programs on ChromeOS. |
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I knew I shouldn't have included that, that someone would misunderstand. No. The Chromebook would run the database, but ideally the files (the EPUBs and covers) would be in the cloud. Or not. They could be on a flash drive or external HD. Whatever. The database would be a packaged app, capable of running on a ChromeOS device without access to the internet. You know... kinda like Calibre on "traditional" computers?
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The allure of ChromeOS devices (aside from the low price point) is that it makes the computer an appliance. Turn it on, and go. No fiddling with registries, config files, arcane terminal commands, anti virus, blue screens of death, defragmenting, updates, random system restarts, drivers, dependencies, missing packages, reinstalling, sudo-apt gets, zypper dups, maintenance, ad nauseam. There must be people who actually enjoy all that, but the vast majority of us do not. I gave up all that. I turn on my computer and within five seconds I'm on the internet being productive. Imagine if your microwave or car required such maintenance and bogged you down with minutiae. "Sorry boss, I'll be who knows how late... my car's in the middle of an update and will need a reboot." Those involved in Calibre think it's the best thing since sliced bread, that's understandable and I'd agree. It is. They have no interest in re-writing it, that's completely understandable! Nobody is demanding or even asking them to. Would those of us using ChromeOS like to see an ebook management program we could use without jumping through hoops? Heck ya. They aren't just thin clients, and they're perfectly capable of running database software. It just needs to be created. We shouldn't have to resort to installing Linux to do something. That's akin to telling a Mac person to just get a Windows machine. It's the same thing Mac and Linux users have been hearing for years, "Sorry, if you want to play games get Windows". Are Macs and Linux computers not capable of running games, or is it that nobody creates games for those platforms? I think when all the kids currently using Chromebooks in school graduate, and some become programmers, we'll see a huge surge in apps available for ChromeOS. Perhaps we'll see a ChromeOS ebook management app, perhaps not. There's certainly nothing technically standing in the way of one being created, however. |
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Except for the fact that developers can be productive in many programming languages on Windows, Linux, and OSX... but in order to develop for ChromeOS you are restricted to javascript alone.
That is very different from the work required to port a game from Windows to Linux, using a familiar programming language and the plethora of cross-platform UI toolkits. Targeting ChromeOS for development is prohibitively expensive in regards to pre-existing skills. Hence it is a browser toy. Maybe in the future ChromeOS will be popular enough that things change, but that is hardly relevant to this thread. ... I'd just like to add that half the flaws you listed are Windows specific, the other half are imaginary. Forced reboots are a legendary Windows thing, arcane terminal commands are a hallmark of people comparing the ease of modern Windows to the complexity of last decade's Linux systems, and WTF defragging? That *might* be necessary according to your filesystem type -- ChromeOS doesn't have some magic no-defrag-necessary filesystem, it has the traditional linux no-defrag-necessary filesystem. ... tl;dr ChromeOS still isn't useful for an ebook management platform. Last edited by eschwartz; 04-22-2016 at 02:54 PM. |
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The existence of a handful of javascript-based apps does not elevate ChromeOS beyond the status of a browser toy. The fact remains, that it is very limited compared to Windows/OSX/Linux... simply due to lack of available software. You can do some things with ChromeOS, but there are lots of things you can't do, because all the existing software was written in some other language. And many of those things are highly complex or specialized and thus unlikely to be ported anytime soon.
calibre is an excellent example of such a program. I also find it fun to respond to ideological, contra-practical ChromeOS evangelism by stressing its flaws. Hence my repeated reference to "a browser toy". |
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This is fast approaching a religious fervor.
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