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Old 07-12-2010, 11:56 AM   #106
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How many ereader owners no longer want an iPad?
That's a very good question as well. I know having an eReader doesn't stop me from wanting an iPad.
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:39 PM   #107
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I think any such "feud" is mostly imaginary.

Such hostile reactions exist just about every time Apple comes out with a new product that is instantly hyped as the "greatest thing ever". It has nothing to do with EPD, or even eBooks. Same thing happened with the iPhone, iPod... etc. Reactions to the current iPad marketing machine are no different.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:36 PM   #108
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Color is certainly an option with bestselling authors like Danielle Steele, Stephen King, John Grisham, etc., but it's rarely used. Apparently it isn't worth the added expense, minimal though it would be for those print runs. Who needs color chapter titles? The only ones I've seen, on ebooks for PCs, have been a hideous blue that I would pay extra to have in black.

As for "serious reading" I think there's some confusion between "serious reading" and "serious readers." Certainly most fiction reading is for entertainment, and most of it is trivial, but a "serious reader" reads a lot of it. In this sense, the word "serious" doesn't mean "grim and weighty" but "someone who does a lot of something."

Color is much more important in non-fiction, especially textbooks, for graphs and charts and illustrations and such, than in most fiction reading. Any sort of ereading device for the education market has to address that.

I've played a bit with iPads but I've yet to find a single function I want in that form factor, let alone one that I'd pay $500 or more for. I like GPS, but I only need it in my car, where I have it. I prefer typing at a real, not virtual keyboard (and don't even like Apple's "Chiclet" keyboards), which I have on my desktop pc and netbook. Ereading is nice, but I prefer my Kobo. TV...give me a big screen and a kickass sound system, please. Music...my iPod fits in my pocket. Games...don't play 'em. Photos...okay, I need to put a picture of my dog in my wallet, you got me on that one.

I'm glad that people love their iPads and do whatever they do with them, but speaking for myself only, I don't even want one.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:03 PM   #109
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Color is certainly an option with bestselling authors like Danielle Steele, Stephen King, John Grisham, etc., but it's rarely used. Apparently it isn't worth the added expense, minimal though it would be for those print runs. Who needs color chapter titles? The only ones I've seen, on ebooks for PCs, have been a hideous blue that I would pay extra to have in black.

As for "serious reading" I think there's some confusion between "serious reading" and "serious readers." Certainly most fiction reading is for entertainment, and most of it is trivial, but a "serious reader" reads a lot of it. In this sense, the word "serious" doesn't mean "grim and weighty" but "someone who does a lot of something."
I'm clear on the definitions of "serious." I tend to use it mockingly when people dismiss color as not for serious readers.

I happen to be a serious reader who sees the value of color for serious reading, as well as for lighter reading.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:15 PM   #110
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As a serious traveller, if I ever buy an iPad I suspect my E-ink e-reader will mostly collect dust. I don't want to travel with more devices than necessary. I've got enough crap I have to drag around. If an iPad would be acceptible to my eyes for, say, six hours of reading (TBD) then I see no reason I'd also carry a separate e-reader.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:30 PM   #111
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As a serious traveller, if I ever buy an iPad I suspect my E-ink e-reader will mostly collect dust. I don't want to travel with more devices than necessary. I've got enough crap I have to drag around. If an iPad would be acceptible to my eyes for, say, six hours of reading (TBD) then I see no reason I'd also carry a separate e-reader.
I ended up selling my kindle the ipad works just fine for me for all of the above. I have read several novels on it and found the experience very pleasing. The only thing for sure is that you can not read in direct sunlight (even a little shade is quite readable though). I live in Phoenix and it is a 111 today so the amount of time I read in direct sunlight is really really small

( I would expect that the same is true for many people even those who do not live in a blast furnace like me)
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:17 PM   #112
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I ended up selling my kindle the ipad works just fine for me for all of the above. I have read several novels on it and found the experience very pleasing. The only thing for sure is that you can not read in direct sunlight (even a little shade is quite readable though). I live in Phoenix and it is a 111 today so the amount of time I read in direct sunlight is really really small

( I would expect that the same is true for many people even those who do not live in a blast furnace like me)
I travel a lot, too. I used to take my Kindle everywhere, including on trips. iPad meets all my reading needs now, though. I still have my Kindle, in case I accidentally kill my iPad. If that happened, I would get another tablet asap. I'm hoping that competitors will come up with even better tablets soon.

About reading in direct sunlight: I've never cared for it, especially while growing up in the tropics.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:40 PM   #113
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Well, in summer here in Taiwan I wouldn't be caught dead reading out in the sunlight in summer, but late November to early March it sure feels nice.
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I'm putting my hand up.

I really only considered the iPad for the e-reading capabilities.

Now between my Kobo, iMac and iPhone, I have no need for the iPad.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:54 AM   #115
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I have both an iPad and a Kobo and actually find that I enjoy reading on the Kobo better.

The eInk is more pleasant on my eyes, especially when I read for hours. (I read a fair bit, 100 or so books a year.)

The Kobo is light and less bulky and doesn't hurt my face if I fall asleep reading in bed
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The Kobo is light and less bulky and doesn't hurt my face if I fall asleep reading in bed
But the question is, does your face hurt the Kobo?
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Now that I have my iPad, it's pretty sweet as an Internet appliance (I'm writing this on it), but it won't replace my Graphite for reading books. It probably will mostly replace my laptop. But if I were traveling and could only take one, it would be the iPad. The iPad does reading better than the Kindle does Internet.

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Now that I have my iPad, it's pretty sweet as an Internet appliance (I'm writing this on it), but it won't replace my Graphite for reading books. It probably will mostly replace my laptop. But if I were traveling and could only take one, it would be the iPad. The iPad does reading better than the Kindle does Internet.
Everyone is different, but give it some time..... You may find the iPad getting more and more of your reading

Also, if you travel by motorhome, there are lots of travel and campground apps....etc....

with about 250,000 applications, there is something for just about anything you can think of.....After 3 months with the iPad it has replace my netbook, Sony reader and Nintendo DS lite. And, except for Photoshop and Music Production it has replaced my desktop as well....
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