02-12-2010, 01:50 PM | #16 | |
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Dynamic eBook prices. And there is a huge difference between permanently higher price (as I understand your post, please correct me, if I'm wrong), and price that starts high and drops as time passes. Finally, about the title: You're right, it might mislead. I'll correct it (again). |
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02-12-2010, 02:02 PM | #17 |
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Totally misleading since it's based on a misrepresentation. The author keeps on referring to Amazon's price-fixing but Amazon was doing no such thing.
Amazon was simply selling at $9.99 - it was completely open to others to sell at $7.99 or $15.99 or any other price, so the price was not fixed. It is Macmillan that is price fixing. I'm amazed that in a free-market economy such as the US it's even legal. 'Retail price maintenance' was banned in the UK decades ago. Publishers can sell to retailers (and the public if they so desire) at whatever price they choose but they should have no power to dictate the price at which goods are resold. |
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02-12-2010, 02:04 PM | #18 | |
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The reason you don't give Publishers control over pricing is because they do not have access to the retail figures (unless they also demand access to that), or at best have access to retail figures that are weeks outdated. This results in an enormously less flexible market, which generally isn't very good for the products being sold in it. Still, it's of course their prerogative to kill the market, but it doesn't really seem rational that they would want to do so. |
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02-12-2010, 02:08 PM | #19 | |
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02-12-2010, 02:19 PM | #20 | |
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Besides, I know not many MR posters realize this, but not all authors despise their publishers, nor should they unless they're treated poorly. |
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02-12-2010, 02:30 PM | #21 | |
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02-12-2010, 02:51 PM | #22 | |
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02-12-2010, 03:13 PM | #23 |
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Call it what you want. Selling things at a loss to force out the competition and then force the suppliers to lower the price seems to me to be a kind of price fixing.
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02-12-2010, 03:16 PM | #24 | |
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02-12-2010, 03:17 PM | #25 |
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Did Amazon actually succeed in forcing anyone out of the ebook market? You have to be able to show that this happened before you can claim that this was Amazon's goal.
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02-12-2010, 03:26 PM | #26 | |
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Rubbermaid (a plastics manufacturer) and Corning were both 'fair trade' items We were not allowed, by law to charge anything other than what they decided for any item from their line. This was nationwide. No matter which store you went into, the price was the same. Thats no longer true, of course. |
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02-12-2010, 03:33 PM | #27 | |
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I'm a customer. Last week I could buy xxx book for $9.99. next month the SAME book will cost me $15.99. NOTHING has changed except Macmillan says I HAVE TO pay 30% more! THAT is why copyright monopolies are a bad thing. Amazon called it right when they said they had 'no choice' but to capitulate. If I were Amazon, I'd stop selling Macmillan books forever. Macmillan can fix the price it sells it's product to for any retailer. Once the retailer pays the publisher, the retailer can give the damn thing away if it chooses to do so. What next? Macmillan to dictate how much second hand books can be sold for? |
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Is the link still available in the OP? Says it cannot connect to the database????
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