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View Poll Results: Is it OK to use an elibrary card to which youíre not entitled by residence or fee?
Itís wrong and I donít do it. 30 73.17%
Itís not wrong but I donít do it. 6 14.63%
Itís wrong but I do it anyway. 1 2.44%
Itís not wrong and I do it. 2 4.88%
Iíve kept using old cards after a move until they expire. 2 4.88%
I have a friend or family member get me a card. 2 4.88%
I use a VPN to make it look as if Iím a resident. 1 2.44%
Other dodgy practice. 0 0%
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Old 08-05-2022, 03:46 PM   #31
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I don't mind people using the library through various means, the libraries still gather stats on the usage and it helps funding regardless if the user has a card through questionable means. Really, it helps libraries when their collections are used, it helps justify their budget to city councils and etc...

I'm a librarian so I have some knowledge on how circ counts help libraries. Even ebook circulation helps. Plus most librarians I know just want people to use their resources! They even count items as used when the items aren't checked out but someone pulled it off the shelf and read at a table for a while.
Iíve heard a few librarians say this. Digital catalogs have made me a library patron again. The only thing I ever used my local public library was the adult book club. However, that ended with the pandemic. I think theyíve started back up, but Iím high risk so I wonít be attending. BookTube book clubs have filled in that gap for me. In fact itís better because my libraryís club only 6 books a year. This year I committed myself to two year long clubs.

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What I have a beef with is when non taxpayers for that library issue book challenges! I feel that only the local community should have a say on the library collection development.
This feels outrageous to me too! The nerve of some people.

I donít know how you feel about this, but I think itís weird to hear people say they ask the libraries to buy books when they donít contribute any money to those libraries. If Iíve paid into the system I have no problem with making a recommendation. Iíve never made a recommendation before, but Iím just saying I would have no issue with doing so. However, I could never bring myself to do that where I have permission to borrow, but I donít contribute. Iím a patron of a library with OverDrive that gives access to everyone in my state. The catalog is super tiny, but I would never make a recommendation. It just doesnít sit right with me.
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Iím a patron of a library with OverDrive that gives access to everyone in my state. The catalog is super tiny, but I would never make a recommendation. It just doesnít sit right with me.
I am guessing that the reason they give access to everybody in the state is because they receive state money to help cover expenses. Otherwise, they would be overgenerous to a fault, to the detriment of their local patrons. Assuming you pay state taxes, you are contributing money to that library. I certainly wouldn't judge you as unethical for making a suggestion for a book that they might want to consider acquiring. No one's going to force you to make a suggestion, but you shouldn't feel shame if you decide to do so. You are paying for access to that library, whether you realize it or not.
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I am guessing that the reason they give access to everybody in the state is because they receive state money to help cover expenses. Otherwise, they would be overgenerous to a fault, to the detriment of their local patrons. Assuming you pay state taxes, you are contributing money to that library. I certainly wouldn't judge you as unethical for making a suggestion for a book that they might want to consider acquiring. No one's going to force you to make a suggestion, but you shouldn't feel shame if you decide to do so. You are paying for access to that library, whether you realize it or not.

Except itís not the state providing this access. The stateís provided catalog is CloudLibrary. This particular city is providing their own catalog through OverDrive so their patrons have access to both. I donít pay any taxes to this city, but they are still allowing anyone in our state to join.
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Except itís not the state providing this access. The stateís provided catalog is CloudLibrary. This particular city is providing their own catalog through OverDrive so their patrons have access to both. I donít pay any taxes to this city, but they are still allowing anyone in our state to join.
Is Overdrive access between the city library and other Overdrive reciprocal?
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Is Overdrive access between the city library and other Overdrive reciprocal?

The cityís library is Overdrive the stateís library is CloudLibrary. So thereís no official not access between the two. I have access to the state library through my local library. The city with Overdrive is 2.5hrs away from me.
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I do have Overdrive accounts for places I don't live in. But they are in the same state. I got them in person. So I was allowed to have them by the library.
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I do have Overdrive accounts for places I don't live in. But they are in the same state. I got them in person. So I was allowed to have them by the library.
Washington doesn't have a statewide library system, but most of the libraries have reciprocal borrowing agreements with other libraries. I have six cards - my home card plus five reciprocal cards. I'm eligible for more. Some I registered for in person and others online. I'm able to renew expired cards online.

I use my libraries strictly for audiobooks and I'm very pleased with the large selections. I have no need to seek out libraries and services that will cost me money.
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Except itís not the state providing this access. The stateís provided catalog is CloudLibrary. This particular city is providing their own catalog through OverDrive so their patrons have access to both. I donít pay any taxes to this city, but they are still allowing anyone in our state to join.
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Is Overdrive access between the city library and other Overdrive reciprocal?
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The cityís library is Overdrive the stateís library is CloudLibrary. So thereís no official not access between the two. I have access to the state library through my local library. The city with Overdrive is 2.5hrs away from me.
I'll try and rephrase my question.

Ignoring the state library. Your library is LIBA. There is another library that is LIBB. LIBA allows patrons of LIBB access to LIBA's Overdrive. Dose LIBB allow Overdrive access to LIBA patrons?
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I'll try and rephrase my question.

Ignoring the state library. Your library is LIBA. There is another library that is LIBB. LIBA allows patrons of LIBB access to LIBA's Overdrive. Dose LIBB allow Overdrive access to LIBA patrons?

Sorry I misunderstood. LIBA doesnít have their own digital catalog. LIBB does allow LIBAís patrons to access Overdrive. But I donít know if LIBA knows that. If they do itís not shown anywhere. I discovered it by accident when trying to find an alternative to BPL. I do know LIBA does interlibrary loans on occasion with LIBB.
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