Translating KOReader - Page 2

NiLuJe · 12-26-2020, 11:46 AM

It's mildy useful when it happens to be broken (and/or something goes wrong), like it was for a few days, because that effectively disabled the Coverbrowser plugin, which might prompt on to look at the logs for more details

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The wording could probably be improved, but then it's actually doing just what it says on the tin, so, eh? Simplify to something simpler along the lines of database migration/update or something?

(Ditto for the stats one).

Frenzie · 12-26-2020, 01:05 PM

Just remove the "schema"? It's not really providing useful additional information.

ichnilatis · 01-21-2021, 07:57 AM

Let me ask you: Do we have to wait for a new KOReader version to have new translations built in or can we put them manually in the existing version?

It may have been answered above (#9) but I didn't quite understand the answer.

Thanks!

NiLuJe · 01-21-2021, 01:07 PM

TL;DR: Use a nightly instead of a stable, and everything's automated.

pazos · 01-21-2021, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

TL;DR: Use a nightly instead of a stable, and everything's automated.

We can start calling the stable "monthly" to prevent the Debian disease of calling stable to old versions.

After all 95% of the time the most stable release is the last one.

Frenzie · 01-21-2021, 02:31 PM

Not sure I'd go quite that high; depends on the changes in question. ;-)

ichnilatis · 01-22-2021, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

TL;DR: Use a nightly instead of a stable, and everything's automated.

I'm sorry but I do not understand the term "nightly". What exactly is this?
If I wait for the next edition, will I see new translations that have been made in "Hosted Weblate" built into it?

Thanks!

pazos · 01-22-2021, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichnilatis

I'm sorry but I do not understand the term "nightly". What exactly is this?

A release that happens each night when there're changes in github. These releases are exactly like "stable" releases, but they're not managed manually, so they might contain bugs or regressions.

You can get nightlies from http://build.koreader.rocks/download/nightly/ but the easiest way to update to a nightly is from the program itself. You'll need to switch the update channel from "stable" to "dev" and check if there's an update.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichnilatis

If I wait for the next edition, will I see new translations that have been made in "Hosted Weblate" built into it?

Yes for both nightlies and stable releases.

ichnilatis · 01-23-2021, 04:59 AM

@pazos: Thank you! Now it's all clear to me.

Could anyone explain to me what exactly "hint" and "hinting" means in phrases like: "Font Hinting", "TOC hints", "hint for books with description"?

I cann't make sense of the interpretations I find in the dictionary.

Thank you!

Frenzie · 01-23-2021, 05:26 AM

They're only vaguely related.

Font hinting refers to "hints" about how to rasterize a font to a screen. See here. The intent is to provide clearer text at the expense of accuracy to the font's actual shape.

The higher the DPI, the less the distinction matters.

As an aside, if you long press on "font hinting" it'll provide you with a little bit of an explanation within the program, although how clear it is in this case is another matter.

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TOC hints are explained in the about alternative TOC menu item. If you're only seeing this through Weblate, if you click through to the code you'll actually see that explanation right next to it: https://github.com/koreader/koreader....lua#L582-L591

The general idea is the same as with font hinting. A document will typically include a TOC, but if it doesn't, it'll often still include headers. Those headers can be used as "hints" to build a TOC.

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The last one is a bit different. In this case it's some type of visual hint to the user that a book contains a description. I'm not the biggest fan of what it looks like, but it's also hard to come up with something much better. See the attached screenshot, top without a hint, bottom with a hint.

Jellby · 01-23-2021, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Frenzie

I'm not the biggest fan of what it looks like, but it's also hard to come up with something much better. See the attached screenshot, top without a hint, bottom with a hint.

Ah, so that's what it is? I always thought it was some badly aligned frame.

Frenzie · 01-23-2021, 06:05 AM

That's the main thing I dislike about it, yes.

I'd propose something more along these lines but I couldn't or didn't want to invest the time to experiment (whether in drawing up concept art or doing things directly in code).

ichnilatis · 01-27-2021, 08:23 AM

What is "HW dithering" and "SW dithering"? I do not understand mainly the abbreviations HW and SW.

Thanks!

pazos · 01-27-2021, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichnilatis

What is "HW dithering" and "SW dithering"? I do not understand mainly the abbreviations HW and SW.

Thanks!

Dithering is explained in https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...&postcount=644

HW/SW is who does the dithering. "SW" means software and "HW" hardware

NiLuJe · 01-27-2021, 12:41 PM

Note that these are in a menu named "Developer options", hence the jargon.

01-23-2021, 04:59 AM	#24
ichnilatis Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Greece Device: Pocketbook Touch Lux 5	@pazos: Thank you! Now it's all clear to me. Could anyone explain to me what exactly "hint" and "hinting" means in phrases like: "Font Hinting", "TOC hints", "hint* for books with description"? I cann't make sense of the interpretations I find in the dictionary. Thank you! Last edited by ichnilatis; 01-23-2021 at 05:06 AM.*

01-23-2021, 05:26 AM	#25
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,169 Karma: 437844 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	They're only vaguely related. Font hinting refers to "hints" about how to rasterize a font to a screen. See here. The intent is to provide clearer text at the expense of accuracy to the font's actual shape. The higher the DPI, the less the distinction matters. As an aside, if you long press on "font hinting" it'll provide you with a little bit of an explanation within the program, although how clear it is in this case is another matter. ------- TOC hints are explained in the about alternative TOC menu item. If you're only seeing this through Weblate, if you click through to the code you'll actually see that explanation right next to it: https://github.com/koreader/koreader....lua#L582-L591 The general idea is the same as with font hinting. A document will typically include a TOC, but if it doesn't, it'll often still include headers. Those headers can be used as "hints" to build a TOC. ------ The last one is a bit different. In this case it's some type of visual hint to the user that a book contains a description. I'm not the biggest fan of what it looks like, but it's also hard to come up with something much better. See the attached screenshot, top without a hint, bottom with a hint. Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2021, 06:05 AM	#27
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,169 Karma: 437844 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	That's the main thing I dislike about it, yes. I'd propose something more along these lines but I couldn't or didn't want to invest the time to experiment (whether in drawing up concept art or doing things directly in code). Attached Thumbnails

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12-26-2020, 11:46 AM	#16
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 11,429 Karma: 20000000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW & PW2; Kobo H2O & Forma	It's mildy useful when it happens to be broken (and/or something goes wrong), like it was for a few days, because that effectively disabled the Coverbrowser plugin, which might prompt on to look at the logs for more details . The wording could probably be improved, but then it's actually doing just what it says on the tin, so, eh? Simplify to something simpler along the lines of database migration/update or something? (Ditto for the stats one).

12-26-2020, 01:05 PM	#17
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,169 Karma: 437844 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	Just remove the "schema"? It's not really providing useful additional information.

01-21-2021, 07:57 AM	#18
ichnilatis Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Greece Device: Pocketbook Touch Lux 5	Let me ask you: Do we have to wait for a new KOReader version to have new translations built in or can we put them manually in the existing version? It may have been answered above (#9) but I didn't quite understand the answer. Thanks!

01-21-2021, 01:07 PM	#19
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 11,429 Karma: 20000000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW & PW2; Kobo H2O & Forma	TL;DR: Use a nightly instead of a stable, and everything's automated.

01-21-2021, 02:31 PM	#21
Frenzie Wizard Posts: 1,169 Karma: 437844 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Antwerp Device: Kobo Aura H2O	Not sure I'd go quite that high; depends on the changes in question. ;-)

01-27-2021, 08:23 AM	#28
ichnilatis Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Greece Device: Pocketbook Touch Lux 5	What is "HW dithering" and "SW dithering"? I do not understand mainly the abbreviations HW and SW. Thanks!

01-27-2021, 12:41 PM	#30
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 11,429 Karma: 20000000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW & PW2; Kobo H2O & Forma	Note that these are in a menu named "Developer options", hence the jargon.

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