Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Boyue

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-20-2020, 11:42 AM   #46
fduniho
Addict
fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fduniho ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
fduniho's Avatar
 
Posts: 201
Karma: 9146378
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: New York State, USA
Device: Kindle Touch, DX, PW4, PW5, Scribe; Likebook Mars; Fire HD 8; iPad
Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
Someone should maybe mention the most important new feature that came with the update. No?
The ability to combine warm and cool lights hasn't already been mentioned?

Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
Well - then I do it. As mentioned in the changelog, when you venture into the the default read environment/readers settings > more settings - there is an option to enable ZReader.

ZReader is an entirely new reader engine (parser/browser), that for the first time supports html markup, and for the first time as well, supports soft hyphens.
ZReader is certainly an improvement over the old default reader. In particular, it is not running wordstogether or putting unnecessary spaces before punctuation marks , and that's a big improvement. But it is still not so good that I would give up Moon+ Reader for it. It seems to lack any ability to change the font.

Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
Regardless - soft-hyphens working on Boyues built in reader is kind of a big deal.
One more thing I like about Moon+ Reader is that I can turn hyphenation off. I might want hyphenation if I read German, and I'm sure soft hyphenation is good for those who want hyphenation, but I prefer no hyphenation.
fduniho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 12:31 AM   #47
ernieh
Connoisseur
ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ernieh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
ernieh's Avatar
 
Posts: 68
Karma: 2113545
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Johannesburg
Device: kobo touch, kobo mini, Icarus Xl, Likebook Mars, Kobo Forma, Pocketboo
Used the update for a few days, not bad but no one here has pointed out a couple of glitches that I noticed and I hope there are not more I have not seen, as usual everyone puts out stuff without proper testing..
1 The library had an extra sub directory of all my books, but not actually connected to the actual book file and also put all my books on the root also not actually connected to the book files. The extra directory had about 1600 books, the root had about 1400 and I have actually got about 1700 so I assume these were my earlier lists. The extra fictitious directory was an easy delete but the root items took quite a while to get rid off a page at a time.
2 The clock on the home page is incorrect, does not always update etc. Not easily fixable as the time is perfect in the settings so the settings are not communicating with the top page.
Does anyone know how to get the previous updates if we want to revert to earlier settings in case this one bombs out due to a major problem we have not noticed?
ernieh is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 02-21-2020, 03:40 AM   #48
notimp
Addict
notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 248
Karma: 892441
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: K2i
Cant help you with reverting to a previous firmware (never tried), but would like to mention that the likebook has two time settings, one in the user settings thingy, one in the android settings (accessible via user settings, arrow right to the image of the ereader (at the top), and then android settings (or similar)), maybe setting both helps. Or not.

I had to reset the Likebook Mars (no books shown upon boot) and am just getting finished setting up all my android specifics once more - and all in all I love the new firmware especially the new default ebook reader/parser.

Feels like an entirely new device - thats also better using, the new 'both leds' feature.

(On the mars Im using custom with 1 pip on the blue led and 9 pips on the warm one - fonts are clearer with both enabled (diffusion layer properties, probably ))

Also, yes - the LED thing was probably the most notable new feature of the update.

For anyone looking for a quick guide on how I set up my android side of things, visit the mars thread, I'm writing a quick breakdown next.
notimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 07:24 PM   #49
Sasha1968
Member
Sasha1968 began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 13
Karma: 10
Join Date: Nov 2018
Device: Likebook Mars
Of good. I go along the specified path. There is no ZReader. Firmware Mars V2.2.0-2020011014.
Sasha1968 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 07:28 PM   #50
Sasha1968
Member
Sasha1968 began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 13
Karma: 10
Join Date: Nov 2018
Device: Likebook Mars
Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
Someone should maybe mention the most important new feature that came with the update. No?

Well - then I do it. As mentioned in the changelog, when you venture into the the default read environment/readers settings > more settings - there is an option to enable ZReader.

ZReader is an entirely new reader engine (parser/browser), that for the first time supports html markup, and for the first time as well, supports soft hyphens.

Which means, that the Boyue ereaders native reader environment can now be used for languages that dont have an average word length of three characters (joking) like english.

There is a downside though - and that is, that most of the paragraph setting tools are getting more corse (less fine tunable) to use.

The main issue right now f.e. is that if you feed it a book with no page borders defined in the epub - margin-top, will be basically 0 regardless of tunable settings.

See:


If anyone can get in touch with Boyue, this is the first thing they should try to fix/address in zReader.

Regardless - soft-hyphens working on Boyues built in reader is kind of a big deal.

Which of course no one here noticed. You're welcome.
Of good. I go along the specified path. There is no ZReader. Firmware Mars V2.2.0-2020011014.
Sasha1968 is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 02-22-2020, 02:27 AM   #51
notimp
Addict
notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 248
Karma: 892441
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: K2i
Same Firmware. There is. If you do it in an epub, opened in the default reader.

Click image for larger version

Name:	PBCwLOl.png
Views:	321
Size:	183.5 KB
ID:	177299

If there isnt for you, try backing up data and do a factory reset.

Last edited by issybird; 02-22-2020 at 08:00 AM. Reason: Oversized image thumbnailed. Please read the guidelines and resize such photos in the future.
notimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 09:07 PM   #52
wobolo
Junior Member
wobolo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 6
Karma: 10
Join Date: Feb 2020
Device: Likebook Mars
Has anybody else noticed significantly stronger ghosting since the 2.2.0 update?
Also the frontlight takes quite a long time to turn on now from standby.
wobolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2020, 01:19 AM   #53
notimp
Addict
notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 248
Karma: 892441
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: K2i
I have the same behavior on the frontlight after resuming from standby.

No on ghosting. Under what circumstances do you see it?

I always use full refresh never in the default ebook reader (with lowest contrast setting), and a custom Times regular font, and never see any ghosting.

If you are talking in an android app, there are a buch of longpress/customize settings to adress that. Regal mode claims to refresh 'differently'. Animation delay delays screen refresh after touch, so any potential animations are filtered out, and regular refresh intervall (which I have disabled), lets you set the period until an additional full refresh.

The default Boyue reading app has those full refresh settings in its setting. For any other android app, > longpress:customize.

Thats one of the things I don't like with Boyue devices. The quality of people that look at ereaders these days - is so poor, that they cant identify significant changes, or handle a little bit more complex options.

If I hear the youtube influencer from goodreaders state another time, that you "wouldnt buy Boyue devices for the ebook reading app" - and that "it only comes with one font" - I facepalm so hard, my hand hurts. (Nowadays Boyue even puts up a info message, when you try to change the font for the first time, that tells you that you can supply custom fonts. As many as you'd like.)

So I havent noticed a significant difference, neither on books, nor on comics, and if there were one, there are a bunch of settings you can play with to customize that behavior so hard - there hopefully is a solution for your woes.

edit: Also make sure A2 mode is disabled. (ghosting on that is expected. )
edit2: Me not noticing it, doesnt mean, that there wasnt a change. But I really don't notice any ghosting on several usage patterns, so my first question is - where do you see it, to try to confirm it existing myself.

Last edited by notimp; 02-24-2020 at 01:30 AM.
notimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2020, 12:21 PM   #54
wobolo
Junior Member
wobolo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 6
Karma: 10
Join Date: Feb 2020
Device: Likebook Mars
Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
If you are talking in an android app, there are a buch of longpress/customize settings to adress that. Regal mode claims to refresh 'differently'.
So they locked regal mode behind app customization now, interesting. i was really annoyed to see it gone from the system settings. You just cannot use regular mode with Manga and get good results i see, thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
The quality of people that look at ereaders these days - is so poor, that they cant identify significant changes, or handle a little bit more complex options.
Please don't rant about xyz these days in a software thread.
wobolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2020, 05:42 PM   #55
notimp
Addict
notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 248
Karma: 892441
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: K2i
Sure. Do you have more info about regal mode and what it actually does? (Specifics would be great.)

On the ranting front - the likebook software in its current state (aside some pdf note exporting issues that other people have reported), to me - makes the likebook Mars pretty much the perfect ereader.

I get everything out of it that I want, customization can be employed granularity, fonts can be replaced, soft hyphens work, line spacing works. You get small little details like being allowed to use the Kindle UI, when in the default reader software. I get dropbox syncing. I get a functional note function, exchangeable dictionaries. Customizable kerning (in 100+ steps), and a second reader/parser, that I can throw even at misconfigured books, and have a good reading experience, because it ignores most html tags, and a pdf reflow function thats up there with the best ones out there. And pretty much fully customizable eInk refresh settings for reading comics, or dealing with android apps. I get the best TTS possible, which I can install, because its android based (Ivona was bought up by Amazon an was responsible for voicing Alexa).

And then some (well known in the field) youtube influencer comes along, obviously has looked at the reader for 10 minutes max, fiddles with the only setting you shouldnt fiddle with, because you have no idea what its default setting is (because Boyue didnt give position marks on the overall UI contrast slider (which you never need to actually touch)), then hasnt even put books on the device to test what it does to formating, laments about there only being one english font and comes to his expert conclusion that - obviously no one would buy that reader for the ebook features.

Sorry mate, but if you have probably the best eReader UI out there in front of you, and you dont even notice it, because all that you have done was to set line spacing 'wrong', fiddle with the word spacing slider a little, which was probably the only setting, set properly, on a default book with the default san-serif font, without mentioning, that you could supply any .ttf font you want, close down your channel, delete all your videos, and change your profession.

Oh, I did it again. Dang it..

Last edited by notimp; 02-26-2020 at 01:32 AM.
notimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2020, 07:11 PM   #56
pazos
cosiñeiro
pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pazos ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,406
Karma: 2451781
Join Date: Apr 2014
Device: BQ Cervantes 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
Sure. Do you have more info about regal mode and what it actually does? (Specifics would be great.)
Is a type of waveform similar to GC16 (slow, good quality) that's supposed to reduce ghosting. I don't know the specifics.

A waveform table contains the specific timmings and voltages used to drive the EPD.

On most e-ink ereaders the main processor is armv7 and runs linux (both embedded distros and android). Main system uses ioctl system calls to talk to a second processor (normally TI MSP 16bit) which is the one that drives the EPD.

Programs on linux (system drivers on android) just request updates to the epd driver. For that they need to specificy a rectangle (x, y, width and height), a mode (full blackToWhite, automatic) and a kind of waveform (DU - fast, A2 - fastest, AUTO - let the driver decide, ...)

What bugs me about the RK3368 platform (which includes all recent Likebooks) is that I'm unable to trigger an update for a specific region of the screen. This makes any epd update all or nothing

IMHO tolinos and nooks are way better in how they handle both battery and epd updates. They're both compliant with intellectual property too
pazos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2020, 01:31 AM   #57
notimp
Addict
notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.notimp ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 248
Karma: 892441
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: K2i
Thank you pazos.
notimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 02:41 PM   #58
Chilipops
Member
Chilipops began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 12
Karma: 10
Join Date: Apr 2018
Device: nook 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by gigio View Post
I have followed this thread https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=326531 and I have resolved.

Thanks
Follow that thread - just "clear data" in the Boyue OS App settings - it worked for me!!
Chilipops is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2020, 02:30 AM   #59
Jinz
Connoisseur
Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'Jinz understands when you whisper 'The dog barks at midnight.'
 
Jinz's Avatar
 
Posts: 50
Karma: 42052
Join Date: Jan 2014
Device: Likebook Mars, Imcosys V6l, Trekstor Pyrus
Quote:
Originally Posted by notimp View Post
And then some (well known in the field) youtube influencer comes along, obviously has looked at the reader for 10 minutes max, fiddles with the only setting you shouldnt fiddle with, because you have no idea what its default setting is (because Boyue didnt give position marks on the overall UI contrast slider (which you never need to actually touch)), then hasnt even put books on the device to test what it does to formating, laments about there only being one english font and comes to his expert conclusion that - obviously no one would buy that reader for the ebook features.
Gooderader is pretty corrupted by being preferrential "business partners" with others and running their little shop also with custom branded stuff. I don't trust their reviews at all, they are shallow at best and just plain wrong and misleading most of the time.
Jinz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Likebook Mars gezgez Boyue 11 09-22-2019 12:53 AM
Mars Battery Like svennn Boyue 3 08-02-2019 05:24 AM
Likebook Mars Trzetrzebinski Boyue 1 03-01-2019 02:44 PM
Would You Go To Mars? kennyc Lounge 31 12-13-2012 07:54 AM
Tumbling across Mars kennyc Lounge 2 03-10-2011 07:58 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:40 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.