Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Amazon Kindle

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-22-2017, 11:03 AM   #1
ThirdGen
Junior Member
ThirdGen began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Aug 2017
Device: Kindle Voyage
Can I jump to a specific *location*?

So I'm in a Kindle book, if I hit "bookmark" I see Loc 768.

I go to the next page and see it is at Loc 788.

So it seems like if I GOTO Location 778, it should start (approximately) at the middle of what the page looked like from when I was at Loc 768, right?

But no...it renders the same view as what I saw at location 768.

In other words...location is supposed to be more precise than pages, yet it still "rounds" your desired GOTO location to a page of sorts?

This is on Kindle Voyage and happens with multiple books, so apparently not a per-title issue.

Anyone know how to do what I'm aiming at? (I'm basically wanting to get an exact link to an "exercise" in a book that I might refer to again in the future.)
ThirdGen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2017, 11:22 AM   #2
Cinisajoy
Just a Yellow Smiley.
Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Cinisajoy's Avatar
 
Posts: 19,161
Karma: 83862859
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas
Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy
Well have you tried going to location 558 since you know it jumps ahead? Just a thought.
I assume you are typing the location in the search box.
Cinisajoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2017, 11:55 AM   #3
jhowell
Grand Sorcerer
jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
jhowell's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,470
Karma: 84000001
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida
Device: Kindles
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdGen View Post
In other words...location is supposed to be more precise than pages, yet it still "rounds" your desired GOTO location to a page of sorts?
Yes, going to a location is not supposed to affect how the content of the book is broken into screen sized pages.

(Jumping around within a book will sometimes result in different pagination, but that is more of a bug than a feature.)

Added: Each location number corresponds to a specific point within the book's content. That point will fall on different paginated screens depending on the font size, margins, etc. selected by the reader.

Last edited by jhowell; 08-22-2017 at 12:03 PM.
jhowell is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2017, 10:08 PM   #4
tomsem
Grand Sorcerer
tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 6,438
Karma: 25995839
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3
It used to be that Kindle re-paginated all the time when you jumped to a new location. That was a problem, because it is a waste of computing power, and can be dis-orienting to readers. No doubt it still does this on older Kindles. Now jumps do not generally force re-pagination. You're only guaranteed that the location you are jumping to is somewhere on the page you wind up on.

One downside of the newer behavior is that there is no way to coerce repagination, e.g., to un-orphan an orphaned header or image caption (short of changing font or something like that). I used to do this by selecting the orphan, then 'Search this book' and select it in the search results, thereby jumping to the thing I'd selected, which would then be at the top of the page. But that in turn was just a workaround for the lack of orphan control. I don't think Kindle platform supports 'orphan' CSS, and certainly does not have heuristics to prevent orphans. Maybe some ePub systems do.

Last edited by tomsem; 08-22-2017 at 10:24 PM.
tomsem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2017, 11:32 PM   #5
ThirdGen
Junior Member
ThirdGen began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Aug 2017
Device: Kindle Voyage
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomsem View Post
It used to be that Kindle re-paginated all the time when you jumped to a new location. That was a problem, because it is a waste of computing power, and can be dis-orienting to readers. No doubt it still does this on older Kindles. Now jumps do not generally force re-pagination. You're only guaranteed that the location you are jumping to is somewhere on the page you wind up on.

One downside of the newer behavior is that there is no way to coerce repagination, e.g., to un-orphan an orphaned header or image caption (short of changing font or something like that). I used to do this by selecting the orphan, then 'Search this book' and select it in the search results, thereby jumping to the thing I'd selected, which would then be at the top of the page. But that in turn was just a workaround for the lack of orphan control. I don't think Kindle platform supports 'orphan' CSS, and certainly does not have heuristics to prevent orphans. Maybe some ePub systems do.
Ah, gotcha - I think it was my 4th generation kindle where I did see this behavior that I was asking about...interesting to hear that Amazon has turned it off. It seems like there are more and more things that I'm missing about the older Kindles.
ThirdGen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2017, 08:42 AM   #6
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdGen View Post
Ah, gotcha - I think it was my 4th generation kindle where I did see this behavior that I was asking about...interesting to hear that Amazon has turned it off. It seems like there are more and more things that I'm missing about the older Kindles.
I do not have a KV to play with.
I will trade you a K2 for your KV if you really like retro.
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Format-specific device location AND save template timepieces141 Devices 11 08-17-2023 11:46 AM
Aura HD A way to specific download location? RZetlin Kobo Reader 3 04-18-2015 11:33 AM
Jump to top? MeSue Calibre 6 02-16-2014 11:57 PM
go to a specific location within a book cypherslock Kobo Tablets 5 12-06-2011 11:37 AM
Calibre and mobi format - creating a paige or location specific table of contents coaver Conversion 2 01-25-2011 05:22 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:43 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.