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Old 10-19-2023, 08:48 AM   #166
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Libraries do not pay the authors royalties. Royalties are paid to the author by the publisher.
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Whether authors get paid per checkout depends on your location and the type of book. Australia has a Public Lending Rights Scheme that pays authors; this scheme was recently improved.
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Old 10-19-2023, 08:49 AM   #167
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Is it really moral to check out a library book if you can afford to buy it?
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Old 10-19-2023, 09:15 AM   #168
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Congratulations, this is the worst hot take I've read today.
Your sarcasm wounds me deeply Meeera.

For everybody else, some clarification...

Authors only get pennies per rental at best; as there are likely many library members struggling financially and a limited supply of each book title - if you can afford to purchase the book is that the more moral course of action?

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Old 10-19-2023, 09:59 AM   #169
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Authors only get pennies per rental at best; as there are likely many library members struggling financially and a limited supply of each book title - if you can afford to purchase the book is that the more moral course of action?
If I buy lentils when I could afford prime steak from a local farmer, is that immoral?

If I take a walk around a park when I could afford to go to a movie, is that immoral?

If I go to the state art gallery when I could afford to buy art for my house walls, is that immoral?

I voted for the party that improved the lending rights scheme, I advocate for good public library funding in my community, and I submit purchase requests to my library (just did one tonight). But you're somehow sitting in judgement nevertheless.
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Out of the three questions, the first two aren't really similar in analogy. A bit silly in my opinion.

The third is closest, but I can improve upon it...

If I go to the state art gallery but neglect to pay the voluntary concession fee despite being able to afford to, is that immoral?

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Old 10-19-2023, 10:18 AM   #171
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The third is closest, but I can improve upon it...

If I go to the state art gallery but neglect to pay the voluntary concession fee despite being able to afford to, is that immoral?
There's no tip box at the library.

If I watch the ABC instead of buying a Netflix subscription or DVD box sets, is that immoral?
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Old 10-19-2023, 10:26 AM   #172
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Your sarcasm wounds me deeply Meeera.

For everybody else, some clarification...

Authors only get pennies per rental at best; as there are likely many library members struggling financially and a limited supply of each book title - if you can afford to purchase the book is that the more moral course of action?
Are you thinking of a moral duty to make sure as much money as possible goes to the publishers and authors? Or a moral duty to other library members to make it easier/quicker for them to get books from the library? Or maybe both? Because I don't think the first one exists. The second - well I guess it's nice if you don't take up a limited resource because you can afford an alternative but assuming you pay taxes that go towards the library system I'm not sure about there being a moral imperative there.

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If I watch the ABC instead of buying a Netflix subscription or DVD box sets, is that immoral?
Closer I guess, but still not in the same spirit. Libraries have a limited number of titles etc.
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The second - well I guess it's nice if you don't take up a limited resource because you can afford an alternative but assuming you pay taxes that go towards the library system I'm not sure about there being a moral imperative there.
Perhaps not a moral imperative... but is one avenue more moral than the other, even slightly?

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Perhaps not a moral imperative... but is one avenue more moral than the other, even slightly?
The more our libraries are used, the more they can make a case to continue or improve their funding.
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The more our libraries are used, the more they can make a case to continue or improve their funding.
Great answer. I'm not actually a member of my local library, you've inspired me to register. I may not ever leave with any books, but if simply being a member that pops in to read their ereader helps their stats and funding it seems worthwhile. I imagine it will be a nice place to quietly read anyhow... and to find inspiration for my next purchase.

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As soon as you turn the last page of a book in Libby, there's a bold prompt "Return Loan to Library". Tapping that is the easiest route back to your Shelf.
A lot of people use ADE to get Overdrive eBooks. I prefer to read them on my Libra 2 and not on my computer of phone.
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Ditto on Kobo ereaders where finishing a library book give you a Return early popup. Tap on it, wait for the preview to finish downloading and it's done.
ADE does not give you such a popup.
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I use libraries. It's not immoral to borrow what they have to offer.
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ADE does not give you such a popup.
I don't see the popup either, but I do return the book as soon as I'm done reading it.
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