07-19-2012, 04:06 PM | #1 |
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Penguin owners snap up self-publishing biz
Everything that rises must converge. Alternately, corporate money will ensure that everything eventually gets consolidated.
NEW YORK (AP) — One of the world’s biggest publishers, Pearson, has purchased one of the biggest self-publishers. Pearson announced Thursday that it had acquired Author Solutions Inc. for $116 million. Author Solutions, a Bloomington, Ind.-based company that has released self-published works by some 150,000 authors, will become part of the Pearson-owned Penguin Group (USA). The success of such self-published writers as E.L. James and Amanda Hocking has encouraged traditional publishers and the online retailer Amazon.com to seek out authors who can build word-of-mouth followings. Penguin chief executive John Makinson said in statement that buying Author Solutions “will allow Penguin to participate fully in perhaps the fastest-growing area of the publishing economy.” |
07-19-2012, 04:09 PM | #2 |
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Booo...
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07-19-2012, 04:14 PM | #3 |
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And yet everyone want publishers to start to move into the 21st Century... and when they show signs of doing it we get "Booo..." Double standards as usual...
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07-20-2012, 07:47 AM | #4 |
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Double standard?
Maybe, or maybe some of the disapproval (and I've seen a lot) comes from folks familiar with how Author Solutions imprints work. Here's just one of many at WRITER BEWARE: http://accrispin.blogspot.com/2006/0...ublishing.html Check the comments on how things changed *after* Author Solutions took over. The line between "assisted self-publishing" and vanity press scam is thin and faint, but it is real and you can usually smell the difference. So far, it sounds like Pearson/Penguin can't. (Not that I personally care, mind you. I'm still educating myself on how things look like from the authors' side. So far, not pretty.) Last edited by fjtorres; 07-20-2012 at 07:50 AM. |
07-20-2012, 09:39 AM | #5 |
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My boo is that I don't feel Penguin controlling more of the book market is of any value to readers or writers. Yes, I'd like Penguin to join the 21st Century, but I have a feeling that this move will just make fewer authors available for librairies.
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07-20-2012, 09:55 AM | #6 |
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Tomorrow's news announcement: Author Solutions closed down, customers to be merged with the scam imprint Penguin Book Country.
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07-20-2012, 06:34 PM | #7 | |
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http://indiereader.com/2012/07/pengu...iting-writers/
Penguin’s New Business Model: Exploiting Writers Quote:
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07-21-2012, 08:45 AM | #8 | |
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http://janefriedman.com/2012/07/20/s...of-the-future/
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07-23-2012, 06:02 PM | #9 |
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Seriously. When I first began looking into self-publishing, everywhere I went I heard really toxic stories about Author Solutions - like, stay away! Run away!
So this is not good news or a sign that Penguin is being 'progressive'. It's a sign they want to leech off amateurs, not help them to become professionals. |
07-23-2012, 06:25 PM | #10 | |
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I think we have to wait to see what Penguin does with its new self-pub venture.IF its a bad deal for authors, Penguin might reform it into something good for self-pubbers and for Pen guin.
Would it have been better for Penguin to continue to avoid self-publishers altogether? More on Penguin's move to self-publishers: Quote:
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07-23-2012, 08:04 PM | #11 | |
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What's not good is to pay negative advances AKA most revenue comes from authors, not sales AKA blurred vanity publishing. Then, I am also against lotteries. A business where most people lose just feels wrong to me. This makes me much more anti-Penguin than non-cooperation with Overdrive. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 07-23-2012 at 08:06 PM. |
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07-27-2012, 05:36 AM | #12 |
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According to a lot of people here Vanity Publishing is the way to go for self pubbers.
If you need all the editing services etc that a traditional publisher used to provide but without handing over your rights then you need to pay up front for them (i.e. what used to be called Vanity Publishing). Looks to me like Penguin is doing the sensible thing and offering the same kind of services they would offer a signed author but for an up-front cost. |
07-27-2012, 10:00 AM | #13 | |
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From everything I've heard, vanity publishers don't actually edit your books. They throw them up on an etailer's site pretty much as is (with a cover they created, I assume), charge the author for various marketing promotions, and then they also take a cut of your royaties, so you're no longer making the full 70% royalty but much less. If you're going to pay someone to edit your book and design a cover, get recommendations from other authors who've gone before you and oversee all that stuff yourself. You can even hire someone - for a flat one-time fee - to format your books for you before you upload them to the ebook stores. Don't go with a vanity press and give up a sizeable portion of your earnings forever in exchange for no editing and constant phone calls that you send them more money. What Penguin's owners are doing is monetizing their slush pile. They know gullible new authors will jump on this as an opportunity to say "I'm published with Penguin!" I'm sure, however, that there will be a clear distinction made between this venture and Penguin's traditionally published authors. The only one who wins in this scenario is the vanity press, who will continue to milk the author for money. |
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