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Old 05-03-2009, 06:03 AM   #16
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I guess it depends on what your definition of "unreadable" and "just fine" is. Personally, I think "unreadable" is closer to reality.
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I guess it depends on what your definition of "unreadable" and "just fine" is. Personally, I think "unreadable" is closer to reality.
Exactly.
If you want to enjoy a good layout of a proper ebook, then "unreadable" is a very mild definition of the garbage you get....unless you use a real zoom feature on 700 (not font increase), then it might look better with one small flaw. You will have to zoom in every time you turn a page, because 700 doesn't remember zoom position when you turn pages.
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An example of why layout matters, and not just textual matter, Derrida's Glas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glas_(book)

Here, he writes in two columns (one a commentary on Hegel, and another on Genet) with interweaving quotes. I'm not sure that in other digital book formats aside from PDF would work for this kind of text.



I too have composed text where the layout is part and parcel of the way one engages with the document. A long time ago I wrote a "mystoriography" interweaving a second set of voices between lines of the main text.

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In HTML, you can always use tables...
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:56 AM   #20
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Is HTML considered a digital book format?
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Why not?

Anyway, EPUB is basically HTML compressed into a ZIP archive.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:26 AM   #22
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In HTML, you can always use tables...
I'm looking forward to the point where eReader software is supporting CSS the way browsers of years ago did ... floating elements and stuff.
I really dislike going back to tables for reasons of design.
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Why not?

Anyway, EPUB is basically HTML compressed into a ZIP archive.
Is that right? I had no idea.
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Is that right? I had no idea.
Yea most of the major eBooks use HTML as a format. (MOBI/LIT/ePUB)

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In HTML, you can always use tables...
But they may not display how you want. Kindle 1 doesn't do tables at all. ePub in Sony Reader will truncate them if they're too wide, so it's impossible to see some of the text. Some readers won't display all of a table cell if it doesn't fit on one screen.

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And as far as I know, you don't have exact control over layout with HTML as one would after something is printed in PDF. That is, PDF displays in exactly the layout the author wants while HTML can't do that by nature of what it is.
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But they may not display how you want. Kindle 1 doesn't do tables at all. ePub in Sony Reader will truncate them if they're too wide, so it's impossible to see some of the text. Some readers won't display all of a table cell if it doesn't fit on one screen.

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I am surprised to hear that K1 doesn't do tables as MOBI does although only one level and only simple ones.

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And as far as I know, you don't have exact control over layout with HTML as one would after something is printed in PDF. That is, PDF displays in exactly the layout the author wants while HTML can't do that by nature of what it is.
That is true but then you don't always need exact control over the placement on a page and you can't always assume the page is the exact size you wanted it to be. This is why we have multiple formats for different uses.

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