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Old 02-05-2017, 09:16 AM   #31
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The problem was a table inside a p tag. It is not allowed in xhtml 1.1 but is sometimes allowed under html under something called by browser developers as "quirks" mode. Sigil's gumbo follows that convention.

So if not provided with a doctype, Sigil's gumbo will enable "quirks" mode during clean on open which passes the table tag inside a p tag through. Sigil then adds the proper Doctype at the end. Unfortunately, when it is then checked for validity after cleaning, the error of the table inside a p is detected and Sigil refuses to accept it even with Mend on Open set.

Making sure there is a doctype as the first line of any html passed to Sigil will prevent this issue as the clean on open will then not be in quirks mode and will properly fix the table in p tag issue.

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Old 02-05-2017, 09:20 AM   #32
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Does Word's filtered html output seriously not have a doctype? This can't be the first time someone has tried to import filtered html produced by Word since gumbo became a part of Sigil.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:57 AM   #33
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Does Word's filtered html output seriously not have a doctype? This can't be the first time someone has tried to import filtered html produced by Word since gumbo became a part of Sigil.
No, it doesn't. It is basic HTML file based on the 4.01 specs I believe. It starts with a basic <html> tag.
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No, it doesn't. It is basic HTML file based on the 4.01 specs I believe. It starts with a basic <html> tag.
Ahh. Ok.

So it's the table inside a p element WITHOUT the doctype that's triggering this particular issue. That makes sense when import/opening with Sigil. Not a lot of tables in your typical fiction.

But it doesn't really make with your addon the OP said he tried about mid-way through the discussion, does it? Your tool has no problem creating a valid epub from Word docs with tables, right? Perhaps they just didn't understand the workflow (or how to use) your addon?
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Ahh. Ok.

So it's the table inside a p element WITHOUT the doctype that's triggering this particular issue. That makes sense when import/opening with Sigil. Not a lot of tables in your typical fiction.

But it doesn't really make with your addon the OP said he tried about mid-way through the discussion, does it? Your tool has no problem creating a valid epub from Word docs with tables, right? Perhaps they just didn't understand the workflow (or how to use) your addon?
No, it hasn't any issues with tables at all. In fact, unless I am very much mistaken, tables are not inside a <p> tag when you export a table from Word.

You choose whether or not to add a doctype to the files in the ePUB with the plugin. If you don't use a doctype, it will not use named entities.

**UPDATE** I just checked and Word does indeed not place a table in paragraph tags as I suspected. They are on their own and cells can contain paragraphs. So, nothing strange in itself.

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Old 02-05-2017, 11:45 PM   #36
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If this ePUB was generated by my add-in I would love to have both the ePUB and the Word document to figure out what goes wrong here.
Where I can upload it?
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Old 02-06-2017, 02:21 AM   #37
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I sent you a message with my email address.
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An update for who wants to know. I have not fully tested it, but apparently in some cases when you save a Word document as filtered HTML it can happen that it stores images inside a table inside a paragraph mark. One of those cases appears to be when there are captions attached to the image. Really strange indeed!
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Thanks for the followup, Tox.
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