12-21-2012, 08:58 PM | #1 |
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Why I Gave Up On 2.3.1
When my touch first updated to 2.3.1 it seemed pretty good -- better than 2.1.5. However, at the time I was reading a pdf which was handled a bit better under 2.3.1 than 2.1.5. All good apart from no longer having a software home button and a perceived rapid battery drain -- not absolutely sure on this but pretty sure.
However when I started reading an epub and it wouldn't return to the last viewed page when returning from home I became unhappy. After some testing I found that it didn't happen on all epubs but it was happening on lots of them. I noticed that lots of other people on this forum are having the same problem. I thought "oh well, I'll manually bookmark the page and then use 'go to page' from the annotations screen to get back" but I found that this had the same problem. As I refer to several books in each day this was an absolute deal breaker for me and as I don't use a micro sd card for additional storage and I was quite happy with 2.1.5 I decided to change back. I first tried to do this by doing a factory reset to 1.9.1.3 then side loading to 2.0.4 [I'm in Australia so it's necessary I believe] and then side loading to 2.1.5. Not until 2.1.5 was up did I sign in to Kobo which I notice is required to use the device. I made the mistake by doing this over wi-fi which meant that after I signed in it upgraded the touch to 2.3.1 and I could do nothing other than let it update to 2.3.1. Complete fail. I waited a couple of days thinking "well, they will fix it soon so I will just be patient" but the whole thing became so annoying and my faith in Kobo in being able to fix it without introducing more bugs was so strong that I was actually considering buying a new sony and junking the touch even though I love it for many reasons. Anyway, I decided to try to take it back to 2.1.5 one more time and did it successfully this way. I factory reset it to 1.9.1.3 then side loading to 2.0.4 and then side loading to 2.1.5. Then I chose to sign in to Kobo using the desktop application. It did its thing including forcing an upgrade to 2.3.1. However, before ejecting it and letting it update I simply accessed the .kobo folder on the touch and deleted the 3 update files that are of the same name as the files in the side loaded updates. I then ejected and found that I had 2.1.5 but was signed in to Kobo so was fully functional. The books that I had bought from Kobo I trashed in my Kobo account and use Calibre to manage them. I am happy once again to have a properly [well, fairly properly] functioning device and I won't be shifting from 2.1.5 in a hurry. My hope is that this story may help others to switch back if they find that 2.1.5 was ok for them and 2.3.1 is too annoying. How could Kobo have let such a serious bug get through to a release? |
12-21-2012, 10:10 PM | #2 |
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To answer the last question: Because it isn't happening to everyone. It has not happened to me on two devices at 2.3.1. Several other people have reported the same thing.
The only other comment is that you don't need to put 2.0.4 on the device. I think that installing that once fixed the issue. My Touch was definitely one of the problem ones. When I last reset it, it went straight to 2.3.1. Also, I believe the problem was only with devices that had 1.9.11 as the factory firmware. If you have 1.9.13, it shouldn't have been a problem. |
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Anyway. I'm very happy now and hopefully Kobo will have the main things fixed for most people in the not too distant. |
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12-22-2012, 05:42 AM | #4 |
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Personally, I hope that Rakuten HQ takes firmware development out of Kobos hands and puts a whole new development team in place.
I lost my faith in Kobo's firmware update for every bug they fix you'll get two other bugs in return. And it seems they don't listen (enough?) to user feed back or feature (improvement) request. Sure, they don't have to implement every feature request. But some request are so fundamental or basic to e-readers there is almost no reason not to implement them in any possible way. There are numerous basic features available on old ereader (2010 and older) devices that are missing on the KT (and Glo) while those devices also run on the same OS. We (users) need a clear roadmap on firmware development so we can better judge and measure de progress of Kobo's firmware development. Last edited by Anak; 12-22-2012 at 08:30 AM. Reason: @John F |
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12-30-2012, 07:08 PM | #6 |
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Well, I dicovered that I received an authentic 1.9.11 for Christmas last year.
So the 2.3.1 was a bunch of trouble for me too. Should I bring to court Kobo or will they replace our 1.9.11 defective unit they pushed on the market? I know a few lawyers that may like to make a group action against a manafucturer fearful to call official recalls when needed? Anyway, I managed to fool the unit to believe that I was running 2.1.0 and I poked in the upgrade for 2.2.0 into the .kobo directory. My Bookmarking is back to a friendly behavior. Version is now set to 4.9.9 for safety. I use exclusively epub format. The Latest Kobo Desktop did not like an 4.9.9 entry at the version number or try to call a function that is not available on the 2.2.0 reader. I do not really care anymore. So, I am at the crossroad of finding a workaround to Kobo desktop, I think Adobe is the widely used solution. What a waste of customers' time! Doing software right is a challenge when you chase too many rabbits (feature requests). |
12-31-2012, 04:17 AM | #7 |
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like i've said in another thread. every simple task looks like enormous strain for kobo and life threatening operation...and people are spoiled. they want to use their eink readers for making phd thesis on them, with a whole bags of notes, annotations, dictionaries, highlighting texts, exporting notes, reading complicated pdf's with pictutres and diagrams, and god knows what...take a break. put some books, read it, delete it, read another, that's it...if you want to do some serious scientific work go to public library and bring some pens and papers...
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12-31-2012, 05:58 AM | #9 |
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Update: I'm really quite happy with 2.1.5 as I don't use an msd card or need series info. Unless Kobo brings out some rock solid firmware with some must have new features I'm just going to pretend that there are no more updates until I get my next ereader [probably a Kobo again if I can find reasonably stable firmware for it]. I will be doing a lot of research though before I buy anything.
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I was going to say: And, I have five kepubs, but there should be none. But, one of them is probably legitimate. The other 4 are Project Gutenburg bokks in a variety of languages that are not in any of the lists on the devices. They are probably the free books that they give you. Changing the language of the device doesn't make them visible. Is this a bug or a feature? Quote:
In fact, the book I'm currently reading, having gone from Chapter 6, page 52 to Home to Library, shows the book as 'unread'. Also, the wrong book cover is displayed. And, another bug, it usually takes the Kobo a while (about halfway into the book) before it shows a book cover at all, rather than the graphic Kobo face. Quote:
Isn't there some problem with multiple shelves being created? Yeah. And probably one of the simplest to fix. I mean, how difficult can using 'ORDER BY' be? |
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I haven't checked if there are any extra sitting in the kepubs directory on mine. Hopefully not as both have been reset recently. I have also bought a few books recently, so there are a few kepubs I'll grant the cover images for the recommendations take space. I can't say it bothers me much. I actually did buy something that was recommendation recently. Quote:
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This sort of behaviour just encourages them...
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I don't use Calibre. At the least it can be order by the order in which the annotations were created. |
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12-31-2012, 08:29 AM | #14 |
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I agree to most of the comments Murg made. He sums up quite a lot of basic ("common sense") ereader reading functions that should be easy to use.
I really, really don't like the reading recommendations Kobo makes. It doesn't work (desktop and website). I've set many books titles to "not interested" but most of those books keep showing up in the recommendation list. And the option "already read" doesn't seem to work at all. Books don't disappear from the list or don't keep the "already read" status. |
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I totally agree with murg, I think it is not to ask a lot for those things.
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