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Old 10-20-2009, 10:55 AM   #61
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Someone said 4 pm Eastern time
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That's NY time, in "american language" - I believe.
uh, no we call it eastern. believe it or not, NY is not the be all end all for *most* Americans
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:06 AM   #63
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Someone said 4 pm Eastern time
Same as GMT -4
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:07 AM   #64
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That's NY time, in "american language" - I believe.

Nope. We have Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific.

New York, despite some people's belief, is NOT the center of the Universe.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:09 AM   #65
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i think nelson meant that "eastern time" is american language. it doesn't mean much to us over here (nor does "central, mountain and pacific". especially mountain !), whereas "new york time" is easy to understand and a fairly common reference here.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:23 AM   #66
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Another worthless design. What's with adding a small color LCD just to call it a color reader. It is NOT a color reader! Besides, just like all the other proprietary readers it will have too many book limitations for the average user who cannot even pronounce calibre, much less figure out how to use it.
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Another worthless design. What's with adding a small color LCD just to call it a color reader. It is NOT a color reader! Besides, just like all the other proprietary readers it will have too many book limitations for the average user who cannot even pronounce calibre, much less figure out how to use it.
What it COULD bring to the table is speed for some things like queries, browsing collections, etc. E-ink is simply rubbish for anything that involves moving somewhat faster than a glacier. It's a "tweener" solution I think, before we get good reflective displays that refresh faster than grass grows.

If they minimize the footprint of the color screen and give it the necessary functionality, I think this has promise, and seems better designed than the Alex thing.

Also, hopefully the average user won't have to resort to using a program like Calibre. It's a reflection of the sad state of the current ebook world.

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Old 10-20-2009, 11:30 AM   #68
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i think nelson meant that "eastern time" is american language. it doesn't mean much to us over here (nor does "central, mountain and pacific". especially mountain !), whereas "new york time" is easy to understand and a fairly common reference here.

just ignorant ferriners I guess...
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:36 AM   #69
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What it COULD bring to the table is speed for some things like queries, browsing collections, etc. E-ink is simply rubbish for anything that involves moving somewhat faster than a glacier. It's a "tweener" solution I think, before we get good reflective displays that refresh faster than grass grows.

If they minimize the footprint of the color screen and give it the necessary functionality, I think this has promise, and seems better designed than the Alex thing.

Also, hopefully the average user won't have to resort to using a program like Calibre. It's a reflection of the sad state of the current ebook world.
true about the display speed, but I personally don't want to use my reader to do that anyway. I use my computer to do that and use my reader for reading.

Also the lcd display is going to have the same issues of usability in bright light, readability, etc. as the current portable lcd displays have.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:44 AM   #70
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just ignorant ferriners I guess...
aw, i wouldn't call y'all ignorant. you just need to travel more.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:44 AM   #71
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true about the display speed, but I personally don't want to use my reader to do that anyway. I use my computer to do that and use my reader for reading.

Also the lcd display is going to have the same issues of usability in bright light, readability, etc. as the current portable lcd displays have.
Take a look at Qualcomm's Mirisol technology. It's reflective color that looks as vibrant as LCDs and supports video speed refresh rates. All I've seen so far are little tiny screens, but give me a 11" screen that uses this technology and I ditch both my ereader and my laptop.
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true about the display speed, but I personally don't want to use my reader to do that anyway. I use my computer to do that and use my reader for reading.

Also the lcd display is going to have the same issues of usability in bright light, readability, etc. as the current portable lcd displays have.
I think the idea is not to use it as a screen, but as an input device + maybe screen. What it does is get rid of horrible buttons (kindle) providing you with ability to enter data there and maybe have some additional info about book or library to be displayed there. Unlike Alex, which horribly propose to use either display as primary and treating the 'other' as space waster and overbalancing weight for your device.

If I don't buy this cutie, it will only be because of B&N dragging it's feet on epub conversion of their store. Otherwise it looks very cool.
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i think nelson meant that "eastern time" is american language. it doesn't mean much to us over here (nor does "central, mountain and pacific". especially mountain !), whereas "new york time" is easy to understand and a fairly common reference here.
I just call it Tampa time...

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aw, i wouldn't call y'all ignorant. you just need to travel more.
And clearly confused too.

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true about the display speed, but I personally don't want to use my reader to do that anyway. I use my computer to do that and use my reader for reading.

Also the lcd display is going to have the same issues of usability in bright light, readability, etc. as the current portable lcd displays have.
That's why there's the big e-ink display above it...so you can read without the LCD.

Many people waste a lot of time waiting for slow menus and functions that can potentially be sped up significantly with this kind of solution. It is clearly not for people who are satisfied with the usability of their current devices to "just read". There are many, many people who are not satisfied with the usability of other readers and speed is one of the major issues shared by many many people. If you're not one, then devices that are intended to bridge some of the speed/UI responsiveness issues are not really for you, and you'd be finely served by currently available technology at a lower cost.

I'm personally not satisfied with e-ink readers. I don't like e-ink's display quality or speed, and I would prefer a wholly superior solution to this. However, I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt because it might address one of the biggest beefs I have with currently-available ebook readers.
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