What font are you using on your PW? - Page 26

Blossom · 02-01-2013, 07:31 AM

It's in a MIUI Android theme linked on XDA.

Popup · 02-01-2013, 08:16 AM

Found it! Thanks!

It's a nice font - but for me it's rather too dark. I think it's back to Verdana for me.

Katsunami · 02-01-2013, 10:54 AM

Wow. I just realized how tight the line spacing of DejaVu Serif is. The line spacing on setting 2 is similar to Caecilia spacing 1. Palatino is a nice font too, but line spacing is incredibly wide. Palatino spacing setting 1 is similar to DejaVu Serif spacing 3.

I think I'm going to do a character count per page on size 4, between different fonts. Probably Caecilia, DejaVu Serif, Verdana (my versions) and Palatino, as that would be the fonts I'd use. Baskerville and Futura look OK, but their readability is less than the others, while I find Caecilia Condensed to be too squished.

JSWolf · 02-01-2013, 10:58 AM

I should have access to the Kindle Touch this weekend sometime and can give making Charis SIL larger a go.

Katsunami · 02-01-2013, 01:28 PM

I look forward to trying it

Just don't make it too good. It must be a teeny bit worse for me than the version of DejaVu Serif I modified myself, or I'll have to find another font or modify Charis SIL myself out of pure pride

By the way, in case somebody is interested in it, I've "researched" (yeah, sounds expensive, doesn't it?

) the efficiency of screen usage of the four fonts I've selected to be best readable for me. Caecilia, DejaVu Serif, Verdana, and Palatino. (DejaVu and Verdana are my versions, posted earlier.) This is the result:

Code:

Settings: Size 4, Line Spacing 1, Margin Widest.
I've used these settings for over one year, with Caecilia.
Therefore, Caecilia is selected as the default, at 100%.

Font		Chars x Lines	Total	%	+/-

Caecila		45 x 29		1305	100	+0.0
DejaVu Serif	46 x 31		1426	109.3	+9.3
Verdana		45 x 31		1395	106.9	+6.9
Palatino	50 x 25		1250	95.8	-4.2

Difference between least effective and most effective:

Palatino vs. DejaVu Serif

1250 / 1426 * 100 = 87.7%

Palatino loses out with 12.3% less text on screen compared to DejaVu Serif.
Palatino fits more characters on one line as any of the other tested fonts,
but it's extremely wide spaced, while DejaVu Serif and Verdana are very tight.

There you have it. Want as much text per page as possible? Then DejaVu Serif is quite a good choice

Not everybody will like that sort of a "wall of text" though

JSWolf · 02-01-2013, 01:41 PM

Want as much text per page then use KF8 and Charis SIL Compact.

Blossom · 02-01-2013, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popup

Found it! Thanks!

It's a nice font - but for me it's rather too dark. I think it's back to Verdana for me.

It's not on my Kindle but then my contrast kinda sucks on my PW without a custom font.

Katsunami · 02-01-2013, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Want as much text per page then use KF8 and Charis SIL Compact.

That's not a fair comparison, as Charis SIL Compact on the same settings is a smaller font than the ones compared here. Certainly the mentioned Goodfish font will stow even more text onto a page at the same settings, because it's even smaller than Charis SIL.

I've specifically tried to pinpoint the font that displays more text on a page, but is NOT smaller than Caecilia. (Yeah, I'd like to minimize flipping pages, as the Kindle already displays much less text than my normal paperbacks.) This means that the letters need to be spaced closer together and the line spacing must be tighter without making the letters smaller.

JSWolf · 02-01-2013, 03:08 PM

Compare Caecilia on 2 with Charis SIL Compact on 3 (using a KF8 eBook) and tell me what the results are please.

sparklemotion · 02-01-2013, 04:54 PM

Question - can you install the alt fonts file and new fonts to a PW with the latest 5.3.3 firmware already installed?

Blossom · 02-01-2013, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparklemotion

Question - can you install the alt fonts file and new fonts to a PW with the latest 5.3.3 firmware already installed?

Yes. It works fine.

sparklemotion · 02-01-2013, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blossom

Yes. It works fine.

Thanks Blossom!

caleb72 · 02-01-2013, 06:02 PM

Jon, I love the work you've done on Charis SIL.

Do you host the fonts you've worked on anywhere?

JSWolf · 02-01-2013, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleb72

Jon, I love the work you've done on Charis SIL.

Do you host the fonts you've worked on anywhere?

Charis SIL is the only one I've really had a go with and I'm not done yet. This weekend I'll be working on trying to make Charis SIL slightly larger.

I'm also going to give Fontin a go as well. Make it heavier and create a bold italic version. It does have smallcaps. But I might just generate a new set of smallcaps from the various regular versions.

Blossom · 02-01-2013, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Charis SIL is the only one I've really had a go with and I'm not done yet. This weekend I'll be working on trying to make Charis SIL slightly larger.

I'm also going to give Fontin a go as well. Make it heavier and create a bold italic version. It does have smallcaps. But I might just generate a new set of smallcaps from the various regular versions.

I already did Fontin. It looks nice.

Too bad I can't share that one.

02-01-2013, 01:28 PM	#380
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	I look forward to trying it Just don't make it too good. It must be a teeny bit worse for me than the version of DejaVu Serif I modified myself, or I'll have to find another font or modify Charis SIL myself out of pure pride By the way, in case somebody is interested in it, I've "researched" (yeah, sounds expensive, doesn't it? ) the efficiency of screen usage of the four fonts I've selected to be best readable for me. Caecilia, DejaVu Serif, Verdana, and Palatino. (DejaVu and Verdana are my versions, posted earlier.) This is the result: Code: Settings: Size 4, Line Spacing 1, Margin Widest. I've used these settings for over one year, with Caecilia. Therefore, Caecilia is selected as the default, at 100%. Font Chars x Lines Total % +/- Caecila 45 x 29 1305 100 +0.0 DejaVu Serif 46 x 31 1426 109.3 +9.3 Verdana 45 x 31 1395 106.9 +6.9 Palatino 50 x 25 1250 95.8 -4.2 Difference between least effective and most effective: Palatino vs. DejaVu Serif 1250 / 1426 * 100 = 87.7% Palatino loses out with 12.3% less text on screen compared to DejaVu Serif. Palatino fits more characters on one line as any of the other tested fonts, but it's extremely wide spaced, while DejaVu Serif and Verdana are very tight. There you have it. Want as much text per page as possible? Then DejaVu Serif is quite a good choice Not everybody will like that sort of a "wall of text" though Last edited by Katsunami; 02-01-2013 at 01:36 PM.

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02-01-2013, 07:31 AM	#376
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	It's in a MIUI Android theme linked on XDA.

02-01-2013, 08:16 AM	#377
Popup Zealot Posts: 102 Karma: 100000 Join Date: May 2011 Device: kindle3, paperwhite-2012, Oasis-2016, paperwhite-2019	Found it! Thanks! It's a nice font - but for me it's rather too dark. I think it's back to Verdana for me.

02-01-2013, 10:54 AM	#378
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	Wow. I just realized how tight the line spacing of DejaVu Serif is. The line spacing on setting 2 is similar to Caecilia spacing 1. Palatino is a nice font too, but line spacing is incredibly wide. Palatino spacing setting 1 is similar to DejaVu Serif spacing 3. I think I'm going to do a character count per page on size 4, between different fonts. Probably Caecilia, DejaVu Serif, Verdana (my versions) and Palatino, as that would be the fonts I'd use. Baskerville and Futura look OK, but their readability is less than the others, while I find Caecilia Condensed to be too squished.

02-01-2013, 10:58 AM	#379
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,841 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I should have access to the Kindle Touch this weekend sometime and can give making Charis SIL larger a go.

02-01-2013, 01:41 PM	#381
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,841 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Want as much text per page then use KF8 and Charis SIL Compact.

02-01-2013, 03:08 PM	#384
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,841 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Compare Caecilia on 2 with Charis SIL Compact on 3 (using a KF8 eBook) and tell me what the results are please.

02-01-2013, 04:54 PM	#385
sparklemotion dangerous when cornered Posts: 1,855 Karma: 22891237 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Kobo H2O, Kindle Paperwhite	Question - can you install the alt fonts file and new fonts to a PW with the latest 5.3.3 firmware already installed?

02-01-2013, 06:02 PM	#388
caleb72 Indie Advocate Posts: 2,863 Karma: 18794463 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: Kindle	Jon, I love the work you've done on Charis SIL. Do you host the fonts you've worked on anywhere?

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