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Old 01-29-2025, 07:59 AM   #16
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Also, per Engadget, Kobo devices may support bookshop.org titles by the end of the year.
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Hunter told me his company is already working on compatibility with Kobo devices and has also been in talks with Amazon to potentially allow Kindles to display titles purchased from Bookshop.org. Integration with Kobo could come as early as this year; Amazon cooperation will likely take longer.
That sounds like the Kobo compatibility is something that Bookshop is doing itself, so likely they are adding ADE as an option for reading.

Kindle compatibility is instead stated as something that Amazon need to be involved with, so perhaps they are trying to get it to work like Libby books do in the US where the Kindle platform does all of the work.
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Old 01-29-2025, 10:59 AM   #17
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BTW, they do have a UK site at https://uk.bookstore.org for those in the UK.
With no eBooks that I can see.
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Old 01-29-2025, 11:28 AM   #18
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sounds like the Kobo compatibility is something that Bookshop is doing itself, so likely they are adding ADE as an option for reading.
Of course we know that DRM doesn't stop piracy and the real solution for the Publishers is to endorse DRM free. Otherwise Amazon will control the market as KFX always has some form of DRM even if the content was requested to be DRM free.

If Bookshop adds ADE that's a cost they have to swallow. Cost is one reason that Amazon abandoned Adobe and did their own DRM ever since
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Old 01-29-2025, 03:20 PM   #19
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I see the ebook for $12.99 on bookshop.org(US). The pbook is $17.99.
Interesting. I wonder if this is like some of the pricing I see on Amazon.com where playing with Tor gives different pricing depending on your exit node.
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Interesting. I wonder if this is like some of the pricing I see on Amazon.com where playing with Tor gives different pricing depending on your exit node.
Are you sure you were looking at the ebook?

When I did the search, I didn't see the ebook and had to select "Ebook" under "Format" to see the ebook.
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Of course we know that DRM doesn't stop piracy and the real solution for the Publishers is to endorse DRM free. Otherwise Amazon will control the market as KFX always has some form of DRM even if the content was requested to be DRM free.

If Bookshop adds ADE that's a cost they have to swallow. Cost is one reason that Amazon abandoned Adobe and did their own DRM ever since
Tor has said they have not lost any sales due to going DRM free.

I used to know some people online who only pirated eBooks that came with DRM but not DRM-free eBooks.
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Are you sure you were looking at the ebook?

When I did the search, I didn't see the ebook and had to select "Ebook" under "Format" to see the ebook.
I had clicked on the ebook button at the top of the page so was assuming that I was looking at the ebook edition.
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Tor has said they have not lost any sales due to going DRM free.

I used to know some people online who only pirated eBooks that came with DRM but not DRM-free eBooks.
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I had clicked on the ebook button at the top of the page so was assuming that I was looking at the ebook edition.
I tried it again using this method, and see $12.99. Disappointing the bookshop.org is doing these pricing shenanigans. Caveat emptor.
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FWIW, they've been very active on Threads saying they want to find a way to make their books more accessible. Their CEO has no idea what ADE is and asked me to email him with more information. And Kobo's CEO has actively said they're wanting to work with Bookshop so that their books can be read in Kobo. All of that is promising and I love the company for it.
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FWIW, they've been very active on Threads saying they want to find a way to make their books more accessible. Their CEO has no idea what ADE is and asked me to email him with more information. And Kobo's CEO has actively said they're wanting to work with Bookshop so that their books can be read in Kobo. All of that is promising and I love the company for it.
I would think there would be someone with knowledge of DRM within the company.
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FWIW, they've been very active on Threads saying they want to find a way to make their books more accessible. Their CEO has no idea what ADE is and asked me to email him with more information. And Kobo's CEO has actively said they're wanting to work with Bookshop so that their books can be read in Kobo. All of that is promising and I love the company for it.
The CEO has started an eBook selling company but doesn't know what ADE is? That's not very reassuring.
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FWIW, they've been very active on Threads saying they want to find a way to make their books more accessible. Their CEO has no idea what ADE is and asked me to email him with more information. And Kobo's CEO has actively said they're wanting to work with Bookshop so that their books can be read in Kobo. All of that is promising and I love the company for it.
Why should you do his or her work and not get paid? Is the CEO (the CEO, for God's sake!!!!!!) that damn lazy not to use Google or Safari?
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The CEO has started an eBook selling company but doesn't know what ADE is? That's not very reassuring.
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Why should you do his or her work and not get paid? Is the CEO (the CEO, for God's sake!!!!!!) that damn lazy not to use Google or Safari?


DuckDuckGo Search
You do need ADE DRM in search. ADE alone doesn't work. Then Adobe is the third hit excluding videos.

The first two are about DRM removal!
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Why should you do his or her work and not get paid? Is the CEO (the CEO, for God's sake!!!!!!) that damn lazy not to use Google or Safari?
How can a CEO guide a business (and justify the really high salary) if they have no clue about said business practices and trends?

Oh wait! Sears let Amazon walk away with Mail Order. AT&T held onto the old tariff model and chased customers to competitors. And the list goes on, with CEO failing to adapt the business till to late.

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