08-26-2010, 07:08 PM | #1 |
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Pocketbook manufacturing conditions
Does anyone know where Pocketbooks are manufactured and what type of working conditions they are manufactured under? I'm very hesitant to buy electronic products these days knowing what kind of abusive situations some products are made under. I've emailed Pocketbook USA but so far no response.
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08-26-2010, 08:12 PM | #2 |
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The new products will be built by Foxconn. Current PocketBook models, including the 360 which will continue with the new models, are manufactured by Netronix in Taiwan
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I know Netronix headquarters are in Taiwan, but are you sure they manufacture in Taiwan?
Foxconn is also a Taiwanese company but almost all their manufacturing is done in China because wages and working standards are lower. |
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accidental duplicate
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True, but wages and working conditions on Foxconn, compared with all other manufacturers in China, the best. The queue at one job is 10 people per workstation. |
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You shouldn't buy most clothes. Most of them are also manufactured in asia. You shouldn't buy most toys as mayn of them are also manufactured in asia. And there are many other things too. Every thought about how diamonds are scratched from earth in africa or some metals ? Really bad working conditions. Base problem is that "The Market" requires low prices as customers are not willing to pay high prices when there are companies offering the same product for less. And when it comes to prices you can't beat the east. I'm sorry about that but i think it's the truth. |
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08-27-2010, 09:24 AM | #7 | |
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So because one can't avoid buying products of exploitation entirely, one should not avoid it as much as possible? That's just an excuse for moral turpitude. The correct attitude should be to acquire those things that one needs in the least injurious manner possible and to leave off those things that one doesn't need if acquiring them involves economically supporting exploitation. As far as food and clothing are concerned: a. there are still plenty of items within these categories that are still made in the west and thus subject to decent labor laws and b. there are increasingly larger numbers of products available that are obtained via "fair trade" whereby independent producers get paid a decent rate for their wears. There are options available, even for eReaders. The PRS-900 (Sony Daily Edition) is made in Japan, for example. There are still plenty of electronics made in South Korea, as well. Luqman |
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a) that the infrastructure used to produce those western-produced goods is produced in acceptable labor conditions too. What good is not buying clothes from a sweatshop if you buy goods from someone who buys clothes from a sweatshop? At the end your money goes to the sweatshop. b) that a boycott against sweatshops will effectively raise wages and improve labor conditions of the affected workers. One could imagine that if the boycott's successful, production will diminish and workers will be laid off, letting them with a worse alternative than the one thye had chosen (work in the sweatshop). |
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08-27-2010, 11:24 AM | #9 |
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Boycott? What Boycott?
Boycott's not the point. The point is that Western industrial complex is collapsing. The wealth of a Nation is in its industries. What do you buy if you don't have a job, if you don't have savings, if you don't have a house, if you don't have earnings? |
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The world's been going to hell in a handbasket since the days of Pericles.
V-e-r-y s-l-o-w-ly. Somehow we muddle through and, surprisingly, things still trend upwards. Glass half-full, half-empty? It is good to worry about the working conditions of those that make our toys but it is also worth keeping a sense of perspective about the alternative. Prosperity and modern lifestyles shouldn't be just for those that already have it; countries that embark on willful cheap labor programs do it with the implied intent to ramp up living standards. Japan did and South Korea, among others did it too. Those people are sacrificing so their kids won't have to just as our parents did for us. We need to be careful; beggar-thy-neighbor protectionism makes beggars of everybody in the long term. Last edited by fjtorres; 08-27-2010 at 01:47 PM. |
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Well put Luqman.
For me the issue, as a Christian, is that I need to treat other people the way I would want to be treated in their situation. It is true that if my neighbour was starving and no one would offer him a job that I could improve his situation by paying him $1 per day to lick my floor clean. I could also improve the financial situations of prostitutes by buying the ability to exploit their bodies. Just because there is some perceived benefit doesn't mean I am treating that person in a loving and appropriate way. People in China and other places work long hours for peanuts in part because they don't have a lot of options. If someone went over there and offered them $5 an hour, I'm sure they would be happy to take those jobs. But then you and I couldn't own so much stuff so it isn't likely to happen, since the people with the power to make the change have selfish motivation for the change not to happen. |
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We (mankind) could do much much ...much better if we change the way we think. It shouldn't we "what's in for me" but "what's in for us all" or the like. |
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08-28-2010, 08:19 AM | #14 | |
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Were wealth static and never-growing, how has a certain degree of prosperity expanded from 1% of men in 1800 to circa 20% of a much larger absolute number in 2010?
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08-28-2010, 08:24 PM | #15 |
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Absolutely Right...
The consumer has the power to change things, but only collectively, not individually. You only have to look at the US Congress, which has an approval rating of only about 10% and is much reviled. However, as long as the collective will is to do nothing about it the status will remain quo.
The same goes for companies like FoxConn (which BTW makes products for Apple and IBM) - as long as people still patronize them their workers will continue to commit suicide. Last edited by emt; 08-28-2010 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Spelling |
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