05-21-2019, 11:16 AM | #1 |
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MS Word vs Open Office Word
I am tired of using Word and how it messes up the format of my eBook. I can export to Open Office and keep the current format but is it worth the effort.
Is Open Office better to use for writing my book? If so why? I really need to understand the benefits of using Open Office and if there are templates for us creating eBooks and well as Paper books. Thank you. Jim |
05-22-2019, 03:41 AM | #2 |
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Try Atlantis Word. It generates a good epub directly from the program.
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05-22-2019, 09:36 PM | #3 | |||
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I would recommend LibreOffice over Open Office:
https://www.libreoffice.org/ LibreOffice is actively developed, while Open Office has pretty much been abandonware for years. Note: In 2011, the LibreOffice developers split from Open Office. LibreOffice went their own way, and have been fixing thousands of bugs and adding more functionality. OpenOffice has been rotting on the vine. Quote:
The largest advantages are:
The rest of the pros are mostly technical/philosophical (open source, open formats, following the standards, being able to cleanly open much older documents, future-proofing, [...]). Quote:
I believe one of the biggest skills to learn is how to use Styles: Word 2013: Use Quick Styles How to REALLY use Microsoft Office: Word Styles 101 Note: These two videos deal with Microsoft Word's Styles, but the same logic applies across the board. Once you learn to use Styles, you can easily adapt the text to any page size, font size, [...]. Making an ebook then requires much less cleanup, and it becomes much easier to export and convert text cleanly. Note #2: There's also the LibreOffice Writer User's Guide which explains anything you would want to know in detail. Or a helpful community over at the LibreOffice subreddit. Quote:
It still requires some cleanup using Sigil or Calibre's Editor, but if you use Styles, you'll need to put in much less elbow grease. And if anything, you can still rely on Calibre to convert ODT or DOCX -> EPUB. Last edited by Tex2002ans; 05-23-2019 at 04:34 AM. |
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I'll try with libreoffice to see updates. But I like atlantis a lot it's a very small program, but full of functionality, and does a great work as a word processor. |
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Learning Styles to create clean documents, and using the free tools already available, can give you clean EPUBs with little extra effort. |
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Bluntly, there's no such thing as a perfectly-exported ePUB from a word-processor, unless the book is EXTREMELY simple. Plain headings, either left-aligned or centered, and relatively plain body text with simple, basic paragraphs. The moment you get "fancier" than that--embedded fonts, fleurons, etc., you have to dive into the HTML to make it come out "right." So, it's not Word that isn't doing the job. You either need to dive into the HTML and CSS, or you need to change what you're doing in the eBook. If you want to post an example of what's being "messed up" someone here can probably tell you how to fix it, but it's not Word that's messing it up. I see these posts all the time, as if there's some magic word-processor that will always export some perfect eBook, no matter how badly or incorrectly the intended book is typed, but that's a Holy Graily Unicorn that doesn't exist. To get a viable, usable ePUB from a word-processor isn't hard; it simply takes a few hours of effort in learning how to properly use Styles and Headings. I can clean up almost any Word file (I am a big fan of Toxaris' Tools for the job) and export it to HTML, open it in Sigil and have a near-perfect eBook, especially for fiction or simple non-fiction. I've used OO and LO and Atlantis and Word Perfect and Word and Bob's Big Word Processor and the results are always the same. Sure, people have their preferences, but the reality is, as in all things computer, Garbage In, Garbage Out. None does a hugely better job than the others, and really, I oughta know. (My company has formatted >4,000 eBooks.) Tex2002ans also knows his stuff. And templates really have nothing to do with any of this. To me, it sounds as though you type something in your word processor, perhaps using TABS, or multiple spaces, or columns, and don't understand that those things don't exist in eBooks. Hitch |
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I'm always somewhat bothered when people use a WYSIWYG program for editing what's definitely not a WYSIWYG end result; i.e., HTML. It seems like they're setting themselves up for false expectations. But I can understand them not wanting to see all the HTML tags gubbish.
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I mean, that doesn't even surprise me any longer. SEEING styles, headings, etc., does shock me. People are spoiled. They want everything to be WYSIWYG and the reality is, there's no such thing for eBooks. Some who've already bothered to learn how to make a word processor work can do their own stuff. Those who don't, can't, and they either publish total garbaged files, or they pay someone else. Hitch |
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Hitch, the multi-spacebar reminds me of an incident long past, back in good ol' DOS days. Our office (US base here in Japan) purchased a Zenith computer with TWO floppy drives. (Such swank!) Our software was "Peachtext" Office Suite (similar to version of MS Works /MS Office, they later became Peachtree accounting software).
They decided the secretary needed to learn to use it, and sent her to Korea for a 2-week school. After she had all the special skills, she was tasked to type up all the military-type regulations that applied to our operation. Skip forward 3 years, she has departed, I am delegated to edit the Operating Instructions. Each of these is multi-page, sometimes 15 to 20 pages each. Plain vanilla text, with footers for page numbers. She made a separate file for EACH PAGE because she did not know how to add a page break. So, about 1200 files... Last edited by GrannyGrump; 05-28-2019 at 02:44 AM. |
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