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I believe that being dead gives you immunity to prosecution, Tad, but I really fail to see the relevence of the other statuses. Does being a "single mom" give you some kind of carte blanche to commit crimes?
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08-04-2008, 05:52 AM | #18 |
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08-04-2008, 05:52 AM | #19 |
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No, but these were all cases of the false accusations you were referring to. We heard about moms or even dead people who never used filesharing tools in their lives to be accused of being heavy bittorent users.
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Do you suppose that the RIAA pick names out of the phonebook at random? Presumably they have some prima facie evidence that these people are downloading illegally. You're not going to suggest that everyone they go after is innocent, are you? Ms. Thomas, for example, was flagrantly guilty of her crimes. She is, I believe, a "mom", although the relevence of that eludes me, I'm afraid.
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08-04-2008, 06:00 AM | #21 |
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By talking about crime and criminals, all of you miss the point, which is that there are better ways to fight piracy than persecution and it sidetracks the debate in a way that isn't fruitive.
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I think this Guardian article is relevant:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...t.digitalmusic It talks specifically about music piracy but it pertains to most models where technology disrupts copyright. Quote:
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08-04-2008, 06:06 AM | #23 |
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What I don't get is the reluctance of publishers to make e books available. I get the deal about them being afraid of piracy and and all that but where is there a proven link between making books available in electronic form and piracy. Many books that are not legally available as e books can be had for free in pirated form. If I am determined to read a book on my e ink device I often will have to resort to a pirated copy. Personally I would rather not do this as I do think it is stealing so I just pass on the book.
Now I agree that stealing is stealing but lets be real here. Give a hungry man a slice of bread and then tell him that no other food is for sale and you lose at least the right to be outraged or even surprised when he steals what he needs. When publishers give away a bunch of free books that are the first of series and then tell you that the rest of the books are not for sale they can expect piracy to result. What I am saying is that the slow roll out of e books is very likely contributing to piracy. It is the one thing that has tempted me to steal. The more e readers get out there and the more publishers think that they can use electronic versions of books to help sell p books the more piracy we will see. It is not the only reason of course but it sure tempts me and makes me see publishers as my enemies rather than my friends. |
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand you. An IP address allows the identity of a specific computer to be determined, does it not? I know that it can refer to different computers at different times, but an ISP can determine which customer that IP address was allocated to at a specific time. In what way does this not constitute evidence, in your view?
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It's like saying that MR is responsible for what every user on this forums says. And if somebody talks positivly about piracy on MR, then MR should be shut down because they recommends piracy. |
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Why not just kill privacy altogether? It won't stop piracy, it will merely force it deeper underground using heavy crypto and semi-closed networks, or some other tech I can't envision with today's knowledge. Or just the good old hard drive swap. |
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Every heard of NAT? Ever heard of IP hijacking? Quote:
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There's nothing inherently "unjust" in holding the owner of a computer responsible for crimes committed with that computer. Exactly the same is done with cars - if a speed camera takes a photograph of my car speeding, the authorities don't have to prove that it was me driving it at the time in order to prosecute me for that offence. The assumption is made that it is my responsibility unless I can prove otherwise. |
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08-04-2008, 06:34 AM | #30 |
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[QUOTE=kacir;227750]and that is why there is Devils Guard accessible on the Australian mirror of the Project Gutenberg Australia site. http://gutenberg.net.au/
Different Devil's guard. I meant this one (http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Guard-G.../dp/0440120144) which is selling for $160 on Amazon. |
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