Digital Music Score

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by John F

Not being a musician and being very uncooridinated, if I was tapping my foot to the rythm and than had to tap it to change the page, I think it would throw me off.

Bluetooth pedal does seem like a nice fall back, but I'm not seeing pace being a big problem.

They have auto scrolling for lyrics, why not music?

In classical music, tapping one's foot is usually frowned upon, so that shouldn't be an issue

I guess auto scrolling could potentially work for one person playing a solo, but when you have more than one musician they frequently look up at each other (chamber music) or at a conductor (choir, band, orchestra) and then back at the score - if the score were scrolling past it would be hard to find one's place.

[John F]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Because, as the previous poster said, the decision as to when to turn the page is very much a part of the process of playing music. It depends what you're playing, what you're going to be playing next, and lots of other things. If you watch an orchestra playing, you'll see that not everybody turns the page at the same time: the people playing the twiddly bits (that's a technical term ) will probably turn the page later than those playing repetitive or slower rhythms.

Sure. But there must be some sort of rythm, or cues. If a human can determine when to turn a page, I'm pretty sure a computer could do it.

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by John F

Sure. But there must be some sort of rythm, or cues. If a human can determine when to turn a page, I'm pretty sure a computer could do it.

It really needs to be up to the musician. Not all musicians will want the same page turned in the same place.

[John F]

Originally Posted by 4691mls

It really needs to be up to the musician. Not all musicians will want the same page turned in the same place.

Sure. The musician could "mark" on the page when they would like it turned.

Maybe we are thinking of different things? I'm not thinking of some dumb scan of sheet music, I'm thinking more along the long of esheet music.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by John F

Sure. The musician could "mark" on the page when they would like it turned.

Maybe we are thinking of different things? I'm not thinking of some dumb scan of sheet music, I'm thinking more along the long of esheet music.

I strongly suspect, John, that no matter many musicians you asked, you'd struggle to find one who actually wanted a machine to automatically turn the page for them while playing music. Have you noticed a demand for automatic page turning in book readers? Hands-free page turning, certainly, but automatic, no.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by 4691mls

It really needs to be up to the musician. Not all musicians will want the same page turned in the same place.

Exactly, hence my suggestion to watch an orchestra and see what happens in real life!

[John F]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I strongly suspect, John, that no matter many musicians you asked, you'd struggle to find one who actually wanted a machine to automatically turn the page for them while playing music. Have you noticed a demand for automatic page turning in book readers? Hands-free page turning, certainly, but automatic, no.

Sure. Because, of bias. Take you for example , you seem to have pre-conceived ideas: It's too complicated, all or nothing, too expensive, not cost effective, limited only to musicians, won't work for classical music, ...

[HarryT]

Absolutely. All the fault of us old fossils . I'm afraid I do think, though, that paying $1600 (or $1900 with a foot pedal) is a tad on the expensive side! I thought my Kindle Oasis, at a quarter of that, was pretty pricey...

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by John F

Sure. Because, of bias. Take you for example , you seem to have pre-conceived ideas: It's too complicated, all or nothing, too expensive, not cost effective, limited only to musicians, won't work for classical music, ...

Until they can come up with software that will read my mind and turn a page exactly when I want it, I want to retain control

[jselby]

Other complicating factors include repeats, multiple endings, and codas which would require the device to read and parse the music rather than just display it. Though at $1600 maybe it can...

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by jselby

Other complicating factors include repeats, multiple endings, and codas which would require the device to read and parse the music rather than just display it. Though at $1600 maybe it can...

Setting that up is part of the software.

That said I would choose an iPad Pro 12.9” against this thing any day. It is considerably more versatile, cheaper, and there are great software options, e.g., ‘forScore’.

ForScore has a companion app that will sync multiple screens, pair two screens to show left/right ‘pages’, etc.

And what are the chances of easily replacing this non-commodity device should something happen to it? Especially if the company is not making them in a year or two? With an iPad you can get a replacement just about anywhere in the world and restore from a backup in under an hour.

[John F]

Originally Posted by tomsem

Setting that up is part of the software.

That said I would choose an iPad Pro 12.9” against this thing any day. It is considerably more versatile, cheaper, and there are great software options, e.g., ‘forScore’.

ForScore has a companion app that will sync multiple screens, pair two screens to show left/right ‘pages’, etc.

...

Inconceivable!

[montalex]

Co-ordinated dual screeens, with stylus annotation, no LCD backlight, abilty to store thousands of scores.

Hal Leonard music publisher, is mentioned here:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...-Digital-Music

[4691mls]

It does sound like a cool device, assuming it works reliably.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I strongly suspect, John, that no matter many musicians you asked, you'd struggle to find one who actually wanted a machine to automatically turn the page for them while playing music. Have you noticed a demand for automatic page turning in book readers? Hands-free page turning, certainly, but automatic, no.

The OP said "just a tap", nothing about automated page turning. The details on the site, mention several programmable touch sensitive spots in the bezel and the video shows tapping one to turn the page. From my experience (I don't play an instrument, but everyone else in my family plays at least one and I would sometimes have the "privilege" of being the page turner for them), that would be a big improvement over turning the pages in a paper score. Much easier to do, quiet and hopefully accurate.

The site also shows reordering the pages of the score. So, if you need to repeat a section, you can set it up to just show that page again. That way you just hit the same spot on the bezel to move through the score. That sounds very good.

Also, one of the accessories shown is a foot pedal for page turning. They seem to think it is something only a piano player would want. But, I think others would find it useful.