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[viceant]

There are more websites where it's being sold, like https://csmobiles.com/es/Tablets/362...ld024bhbxY5f90

Does anyone know whether it's reliable that website?

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by viceant

There are more websites where it's being sold, like https://csmobiles.com/es/Tablets/362...ld024bhbxY5f90

Does anyone know whether it's reliable that website?

Is it from Norway?
Then, I'm afraid there will be VAT at this price.

[viceant]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Is it from Norway?
Then, I'm afraid there will be VAT at this price.

Yes, I guess it's the reason for such a low price. They could advert it

[Quoth]

Probably no VAT if not an EU destination, but then local import duty.

Though a site retailing IN Eu selling to EU must include VAT in display price (unlike USA sites & sales tax). Norway is just associate. Not all EU laws apply in Norway.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Probably no VAT if not an EU destination, but then local import duty.

Though a site retailing IN Eu selling to EU must include VAT in display price (unlike USA sites & sales tax). Norway is just associate. Not all EU laws apply in Norway.

It is from Spain, but!

[Quoth]

They don't seem to envisage non-EU sales (on which EU exporters don't charge VAT).
Also an EU (or Spanish) company charging other than local currency or euros is odd. The mention of GBP is very odd.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Though a site retailing IN Eu selling to EU must include VAT in display price (unlike USA sites & sales tax). Norway is just associate. Not all EU laws apply in Norway.

I can just see a site selling to North Americans that displayed the price including taxes. Not sure how many people would be happy with giving their location down to the street address before being able to see the price. Not to mention that in Canada, you get other oddities such as First Nations people being exempt from GST/HST in some circumstances. See GST/HST Administrative Policy - Application of the GST/HST to Indians if you are suffering from insomnia.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by DNSB

I can just see a site selling to North Americans that displayed the price including taxes. Not sure how many people would be happy with giving their location down to the street address before being able to see the price.

That's why sites that properly sell globally have you select country / currency / language*.

Some big companies solve it by having separate sites for regions or countries. Like Amazon has Marketplaces.

However Amazon UK by default shows prices including UK VAT. But since Brexit when Irish customers log in the prices change (They probably changed before Brexit when various VAT rules changed). Because UK sellers should not charge VAT on exports. Small UK sellers then show a VAT exclusive price and the VAT is charged at customs in the EU. But any UK seller can register so that they collect the VAT rate at customer destination and show correct price to customer logged in, and then the VAT is prepaid (and sent to that country in bulk) and parcel is not held at customs waiting for VAT. Some Chinese sellers are now doing this. Brexit only exists so the UK can ignore EU banking & money laundering laws, especially via Channel Is & Isle of Man which are not in UK so exempt to UK banking /moneylaundering laws like all British Overseas Territories. The NI Protocol means NI stays in EU customs union and single market, so NI can easily do import/export with EU and Ireland (no border in Ireland), but adds extra paperwork to/from GB. UK-GB exports down 10% to 90% depending on sector, NI-GB exports are 14% up.

There is NO Irish Marketplace on Amazon: Kindle owners can have ALL Kindles either notionally in USA or UK (affects what books are available, but Irish VAT charged). Irish Customers can use UK, USA or German (in English) marketplaces for other products. But not everything ships and search doesn't show, not till product selected or sometimes at checkout do you know proper shipping price or if it ships at all. UK Amazon will show euros at checkout but only at Amazon's higher than my credit card exchange rate, so I pay in Stg.
Kindles can be registered on German market place for a few countries as well as Germany, but not Ireland, even though site is in English, titles in English, German site charges Irish VAT on other items etc.

(* As an aside it is totally stupid and abusive to have a flag to select language. How does that work for Malta, Belgium, Canada, Ireland, Wales, Switzerland?)

[Renate]

Originally Posted by Quoth

(* As an aside it is totally stupid and abusive to have a flag to select language. How does that work for Malta, Belgium, Canada, Ireland, Wales, Switzerland?)

How does that work for the US? I'm proud that we have no official language.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Renate

How does that work for the US? I'm proud that we have no official language.

It's a long time since I was in the USA. There seemed to be some need for Spanish in some places. Also maybe some small areas still have French or German.

Then there are the languages of the native peoples before the Europeans came.

A USA flag or a UK flag to Select English is only OK for English only speaking Americans and Englishmen.

Places do need official languages (can be more than one) so that Corporations and arrogant people in a majority group don't abuse the minorities. See Northern Ireland where Irish was acceptable before 1922 and till the 1980s the BBC was blocking Welsh programs (except the Annual Eisteddfod) so some locals wouldn't feel deprived. One Party in NI has been using a veto to block Irish in N.I. part of UK for 22 years, yet UK has Scottish Gaelic in Scotland and Welsh in Wales.

Maybe the USA SHOULD have some official languages.

[Renate]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Maybe the USA SHOULD have some official languages.

No, because with the state of things it would be only English.
See: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...997/cosponsors
72 fatheads, OMG, they are all of the Republican party. What were the chances of that?
Yes, it might be good if we had 30 or so official languages.
OTOH, look at that Ryan Air fracas. Although South Africa has 11 official languages somebody thinks that they should all speak Afrikaans.

I live in a country where people get abused for speaking a language other than English. I've been waiting for a chance to launch into somebody abusing someone for speaking another language in public.

Funny that we landed on this subject now:
https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/g...ge-authorities

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Renate

No, because with the state of things it would be only English.

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Yes, it might be good if we had 30 or so official languages.
OTOH, look at that Ryan Air fracas. Although South Africa has 11 official languages somebody thinks that they should all speak Afrikaans.

I live in a country where people get abused for speaking a language other than English. I've been waiting for a chance to launch into somebody abusing someone for speaking another language in public.

Certainly that would be stupid [English only in USA]. I can see that no official language is sometimes better.

I'm familiar with South Africa and both of the "white tribes" that developed there.

[Renate]

I don't think that any country is pluralistic enough unless Klingon is an official language.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Quoth

That's why sites that properly sell globally have you select country / currency / language*.

As I pointed out, in Canada you would need country and province at a minimum. In the USA, where you can have federal, state, county and city taxes? How many people who are just browsing on a website would be happy giving their street address before seeing a price?

[Quoth]

That's why USA sites only show ex-tax price till checkout unless they sell outside USA to EU officially and you log in.
Though I noticed in 1980s that some local USA shops showed tax separately. The UK and Ireland had that very long ago, but it was rare, usually only on very high price items.