USA stopping 2G & 3G network service affects some Kindle Devices

copyrite · 07-28-2021, 06:39 PM

An email I got today regarding my 3G Kindle Voyage...

An update about your Kindle device and cellular connectivity
Amazon.com <store-news@amazon.com>

Hello,

Starting this December, Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) in the U.S. will start phasing out their 2G and 3G networks (to learn more about MNO 2G and 3G network deprecation, click here). This means that some prior generation Kindle devices, including Kindle (1st and 2nd Generation) and Kindle DX (2nd Generation), will no longer be able to connect to the internet. Customers who own these devices will still be able to enjoy previously downloaded content on their Kindle, but they will no longer be able to access or download new content wirelessly.

Other devices, including Kindle Keyboard (3rd Generation), Kindle Touch (4th Generation), Kindle Paperwhite (5th Generation, 6th Generation, and 7th Generation), Kindle Voyage (7th Generation), and Kindle Oasis (8th Generation), will only be able to connect to the internet using Wi-Fi. If you are unsure which device you have, see Identify Your Kindle E-reader for more information.

To thank you for being one of our earliest customers, we’d like to offer you a promotion code, valid through August 15, 2021, at 11:59 pm (PDT) for $50 off a new Kindle Paperwhite or Kindle Oasis, plus $15 in eBook credits. Terms and Conditions apply.

binaryhermit · 07-28-2021, 07:38 PM

It's not Amazon, it's Sprint and AT&T.

(FWIW, I think the Sprint 2G/3G the first gen and early 2nd gen devices used has been all but phased out or otherwise unusable by Kindles for a couple years now)

GlennD · 07-28-2021, 11:45 PM

I wonder if the $50 discount can be used with a trade-in. That would be a great discount.

Badcatalex · 07-29-2021, 12:41 AM

For me, a K1 owner, it read:

Hello Alex,

When we introduced the first Amazon Kindle fourteen years ago, it forever changed how books are read and published, and we want to thank you for being one of our first Kindle customers.

Starting this December, Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) in the U.S. will start phasing out their 2G and 3G networks (to learn more about MNO 2G and 3G network deprecation, click here). This means that some prior generation Kindle devices, including your Kindle (1st Generation) will no longer be able to connect to the internet and will have no way to wirelessly connect to the Kindle Store. You will still be able to enjoy previously downloaded content on your Kindle, but you will no longer be able to access or download new content wirelessly.

To thank you for being one of our earliest customers, and for still reading on your Kindle (1st Generation) device, we would like to offer you a free Kindle Oasis (10th Generation) device and device cover (up to a $289.98 value), so you can continue to enjoy reading and downloading new content.

To redeem this offer, please check that your default Amazon shipping address is accurate and within the U.S., and authorize Amazon to ship these products, by September 28, 2021 at 11:59 p.m. (PDT). Terms & Conditions apply.

For questions or concerns, please contact Customer Service.

Sincerely,

The Kindle Team

Amazon.com

Does this mean my Kindle is from around the launch period? I had gotten it from Goodwill. Or is this for all 3G Kindle owners? I definitely took the offer up tho

Badcatalex · 07-29-2021, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

It's not Amazon, it's Sprint and AT&T.

(FWIW, I think the Sprint 2G/3G the first gen and early 2nd gen devices used has been all but phased out or otherwise unusable by Kindles for a couple years now)

Nah it still.works... won't for much longer tho

copyrite · 07-29-2021, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badcatalex

I actually am getting a free Oasis (and case) because I have a registered Kindle 1.
I would send proof but it keeps getting auto deleted. Anyone else getting a deal like this? It's saying that I am "one of their earliest customers" and "one of their earliest Kindle customers" however. Is my Kindle like an early unit or something? Or is this for all original Kindle users? Or all 3G only Kindle owners?

That's nice of Amazon!

I don't think I'm using this deal. I really don't need another Kindle. I don't think.

Deskisamess · 07-29-2021, 08:02 AM

Amazon isn't responsible for this, why does the subject line say it is? The sunsetting of 2/3g has been talked about for many years. It shouldn't be a surprise for anyone.

EltaninPub · 07-29-2021, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlennD

I wonder if the $50 discount can be used with a trade-in. That would be a great discount.

This is what I'm trying to figure out. My email said I'd get $70 off certain kindles, and a $25 ebook credit. I guess it varies by how long you've had a K3 (and actually I have 2 on my account).

IF I can combine it with the 20% off deal with trade in, plus the $5 credit for the K3 trade in, I can get a paperwhite basically for free. But I have no way of knowing if the offers will combine until I mail in the K3, they get it, and the apply the 20% off promotion to my account. If I can't combine offers, I'd rather just sell the K3 on eBay.

EltaninPub · 07-29-2021, 08:23 AM

Actually, looking at what great-condition add-free K3s are selling for on eBay (especially since I have 2 covers for it), I guess I'd do better selling it on eBay than the Amazon trade in. If I used the 20% of on a paperwhite, that's $26 + the $5 gift card. And they're selling for more than that on eBay.

Quoth · 07-29-2021, 08:36 AM

And it's not everywhere. Here they have only just started installing "Smart" Electricity meters that use 3G.

Most USA 2G was CDMA, not GSM 2G.

Also many USA 3G is not compatible with other 3G, nor upgraded to HSPA etc. It's some USA operators getting rid of stuff that's very obsolete.

Yes, the Amazon trade in isn't worth it. Someone using a non-Kindle may offer more and only care if it's deregistered and not blacklisted. They only need it to work long enough to register and then put it in a drawer.

Trade-ins in most sectors are convenience, not value.

JSWolf · 07-29-2021, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badcatalex

When we introduced the first Amazon Kindle fourteen years ago, it forever changed how books are read and published, and we want to thank you for being one of our first Kindle customers.

Amazon is wrong here. Sony was the company that started with a Reader that used eInk. The first eInk based reader released in the US was the Sony Reader PRS-505.

John F · 07-29-2021, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Amazon is wrong here. Sony was the company that started with a Reader that used eInk. The first eInk based reader released in the US was the Sony Reader PRS-505.

I see no mention of eink by Amazon.

Badcatalex · 07-29-2021, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Amazon is wrong here. Sony was the company that started with a Reader that used eInk. The first eInk based reader released in the US was the Sony Reader PRS-505.

Yeah well whatever. I'm still getting a free Oasis out of this. But it was Amazon that made ereading mainstream

JSWolf · 07-29-2021, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F

I see no mention of eink by Amazon.

The first Kindle was not LCD. It was eInk.

JSWolf · 07-29-2021, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badcatalex

Yeah well whatever. I'm still getting a free Oasis out of this. But it was Amazon that made ereading mainstream

It was Amazon that caused a lot of people to lose access to their eBooks because of DRM. Before eInk Readers, Amazon sold eBooks in MS-Reader, eReader, and PDF. If you needed to update the DRM because you got a new system hard drive or a new computer, you could. That was until Amazon decided to do away with eBooks including purchases.

Congratulations on getting a free Oasis.

07-28-2021, 06:39 PM	#1
copyrite Wizard Posts: 1,814 Karma: 4985051 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Maryland Device: ...lots! ;) mostly reading on a Kindle Voyage	USA stopping 2G & 3G network service affects some Kindle Devices An email I got today regarding my 3G Kindle Voyage... An update about your Kindle device and cellular connectivity Amazon.com <store-news@amazon.com> Hello, Starting this December, Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) in the U.S. will start phasing out their 2G and 3G networks (to learn more about MNO 2G and 3G network deprecation, click here). This means that some prior generation Kindle devices, including Kindle (1st and 2nd Generation) and Kindle DX (2nd Generation), will no longer be able to connect to the internet. Customers who own these devices will still be able to enjoy previously downloaded content on their Kindle, but they will no longer be able to access or download new content wirelessly. Other devices, including Kindle Keyboard (3rd Generation), Kindle Touch (4th Generation), Kindle Paperwhite (5th Generation, 6th Generation, and 7th Generation), Kindle Voyage (7th Generation), and Kindle Oasis (8th Generation), will only be able to connect to the internet using Wi-Fi. If you are unsure which device you have, see Identify Your Kindle E-reader for more information. To thank you for being one of our earliest customers, we’d like to offer you a promotion code, valid through August 15, 2021, at 11:59 pm (PDT) for $50 off a new Kindle Paperwhite or Kindle Oasis, plus $15 in eBook credits. Terms and Conditions apply. Last edited by copyrite; 07-29-2021 at 05:07 PM.

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07-28-2021, 07:38 PM	#2
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,696 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	It's not Amazon, it's Sprint and AT&T. (FWIW, I think the Sprint 2G/3G the first gen and early 2nd gen devices used has been all but phased out or otherwise unusable by Kindles for a couple years now)

07-28-2021, 11:45 PM	#3
GlennD Wizard Posts: 2,101 Karma: 17249026 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Pacific NW Device: sony PRS350, iPhone, iPad	I wonder if the $50 discount can be used with a trade-in. That would be a great discount.

07-29-2021, 12:41 AM	#4
Badcatalex I draw. Posts: 128 Karma: 4278578 Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Midwestern US Device: K1, K4B, KPW3, KOA3, KF7 (2019)	For me, a K1 owner, it read: Hello Alex, When we introduced the first Amazon Kindle fourteen years ago, it forever changed how books are read and published, and we want to thank you for being one of our first Kindle customers. Starting this December, Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) in the U.S. will start phasing out their 2G and 3G networks (to learn more about MNO 2G and 3G network deprecation, click here). This means that some prior generation Kindle devices, including your Kindle (1st Generation) will no longer be able to connect to the internet and will have no way to wirelessly connect to the Kindle Store. You will still be able to enjoy previously downloaded content on your Kindle, but you will no longer be able to access or download new content wirelessly. To thank you for being one of our earliest customers, and for still reading on your Kindle (1st Generation) device, we would like to offer you a free Kindle Oasis (10th Generation) device and device cover (up to a $289.98 value), so you can continue to enjoy reading and downloading new content. To redeem this offer, please check that your default Amazon shipping address is accurate and within the U.S., and authorize Amazon to ship these products, by September 28, 2021 at 11:59 p.m. (PDT). Terms & Conditions apply. For questions or concerns, please contact Customer Service. Sincerely, The Kindle Team Amazon.com Does this mean my Kindle is from around the launch period? I had gotten it from Goodwill. Or is this for all 3G Kindle owners? I definitely took the offer up tho

07-29-2021, 08:02 AM	#7
Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,609 Karma: 42697471 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 7+, iPad mini, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8"	Amazon isn't responsible for this, why does the subject line say it is? The sunsetting of 2/3g has been talked about for many years. It shouldn't be a surprise for anyone.

07-29-2021, 08:23 AM	#9
EltaninPub Nameless Being	Actually, looking at what great-condition add-free K3s are selling for on eBay (especially since I have 2 covers for it), I guess I'd do better selling it on eBay than the Amazon trade in. If I used the 20% of on a paperwhite, that's $26 + the $5 gift card. And they're selling for more than that on eBay.

07-29-2021, 08:36 AM	#10
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,158 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	And it's not everywhere. Here they have only just started installing "Smart" Electricity meters that use 3G. Most USA 2G was CDMA, not GSM 2G. Also many USA 3G is not compatible with other 3G, nor upgraded to HSPA etc. It's some USA operators getting rid of stuff that's very obsolete. Yes, the Amazon trade in isn't worth it. Someone using a non-Kindle may offer more and only care if it's deregistered and not blacklisted. They only need it to work long enough to register and then put it in a drawer. Trade-ins in most sectors are convenience, not value.