Aw Jeez I am OLD!!!

[kindlekitten]

old? I was perusing the paper while in the hospital and saw that Mel Gibson was turning 54. I kind of figured it was a typo and moved on. then I saw something again saying he was 54.

this cannot be possible! I checked online, wiki answers (which I have never figured out that website) says "about 60", other pages say the 54 number. anyone know the real deal?

[Sparrow]

I trust the IMDB and it says:

"Mel Columcille Gerard Gibson was born on January 3, 1956, in Peekskill, New York, USA"

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

old? I was perusing the paper while in the hospital and saw that Mel Gibson was turning 54. I kind of figured it was a typo and moved on. then I saw something again saying he was 54.

this cannot be possible! I checked online, wiki answers (which I have never figured out that website) says "about 60", other pages say the 54 number. anyone know the real deal?

Yes, he's younger than my mother...

[Katti's Cat]

He's only 54?????? Geeeez - I hope I'm not looking that old when I turn 54.

[kindlekitten]

I don't buy it

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I don't buy it

You can't buy him anyway...

[kindlekitten]

wouldn't want to

[badgoodDeb]

Originally Posted by jgaiser

I saw Janis Joplin in about 1968 at the Monterey Rock Festival.

I started talking to a young 20-something guy at work and he had never heard of Janis. And his knowledge of the Beatles was just a couple of songs.

Yea.. It's hell getting old.

Talking to my own brother, after hearing "Lean On Me" by Club Nouveau. He remarked on how it was interesting to hear an oldie redone like that. Later, I realized he was referring to the D.C.Talk version .... and he had NO IDEA it went back much much further than that! I told him I had first heard it in 1975..... Sigh.

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Talking to my own brother, after hearing "Lean On Me" by Club Nouveau. He remarked on how it was interesting to hear an oldie redone like that. Later, I realized he was referring to the D.C.Talk version .... and he had NO IDEA it went back much much further than that! I told him I had first heard it in 1975..... Sigh.

Sneer not, lest I remind you of Satchmo's Strutting With Some Bar-be-Que or Mack the Knife ....

Or Gogi Grant, or Tex Ritter's Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette.....

Or the Andrew Sisters....

All of which would have been in the public domain now, if the copyright law in the US hadn't been overwritten in 1978.....

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Sneer not, lest I remind you of Satchmo's Strutting With Some Bar-be-Que or Mack the Knife ....

Or Gogi Grant, or Tex Ritter's Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette.....

Or the Andrew Sisters....

All of which would have been in the public domain now, if the copyright law in the US hadn't been overwritten in 1978.....

That was a real bono-head thing to do. Copyright laws should protect the originators of a work, not their heirs or corporations in perpetuity.

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

That was a real bono-head thing to do. Copyright laws should protect the originators of a work, not their heirs or corporations in perpetuity.

No argument. I believe in protecting the right of the living, not of the dead...

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by kazbates

Isn't there a point when entertainers (especially aging Rock stars) should just turn in their microphones and bling and head for the nearest retirement home? I'm sorry, but watching a 70 year old man (who was the least talented singer of the group) gyrating on the stage is NOT my idea of entertainment.

I always like Keith Richards' comment on the matter, that if he was 80 years old and in a wheelchair, if people wanted to see him, he'd go out and play.

But then, Keith impressed me as one of the more thoughtful and mature rockers out there. He lived through superstardom and heroin addiction and came out the other side with his head on reasonably straight.

The problem is perception. Rock is viewed as young people's music. Would folks have an issue with a famous jazz player (or country musician) turning 70 and still recording/touring?

I don't have an issue with Ringo or anyone else still wanting to go out there and do it. The question is whether they've grown up, and their music will reflect their age. Years back, I met the late Buddy Miles. Buddy was a top drummer who had played in the Electric Flag, played with Carlos Santana, and been the drummer for Jimi Hendrix's Band of Gypsies. When I met him, he was on a downturn, caused by cocaine addiction and other issues. But he was leader of a current version of the Band of Gypsies, and stated he was thinking about making some changes in the band. He thought the 60's would come back big.

What I wanted to tell him was "Yeah, you were huge in the 60's, and the music may come back. But it's been 30 years, and you're a different person now. Take the '60s as a base, but build on it using all you've learned and been through since. Otherwise, you'll be like the '50s doo-wop acts, still touring and endlessly repeating the same hits that made them famous back then. Is that what you want to do?"

There are plenty of folks from back then still around and doing great stuff. A while back, Moby Grape, a San Francisco band I hadn't seen the first time around, did some club dates in NYC. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Age isn't the factor. Style and subject is. The rocker who was every girl's masturbatory fantasy back when will only be sad still trying to do that at 70. The rocker that just wanted to make good music and put on a great show might well still have a place.
______
Dennis

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

I always like Keith Richards' comment on the matter, that if he was 80 years old and in a wheelchair, if people wanted to see him, he'd go out and play.

But then, Keith impressed me as one of the more thoughtful and mature rockers out there. He lived through superstardom and heroin addiction and came out the other side with his head on reasonably straight.

The problem is perception. Rock is viewed as young people's music. Would folks have an issue with a famous jazz player (or country musician) turning 70 and still recording/touring?

I don't have an issue with Ringo or anyone else still wanting to go out there and do it. The question is whether they've grown up, and their music will reflect their age. Years back, I met the late Buddy Miles. Buddy was a top drummer who had played in the Electric Flag, played with Carlos Santana, and been the drummer for Jimi Hendrix's Band of Gypsies. When I met him, he was on a downturn, caused by cocaine addiction and other issues. But he was leader of a current version of the Band of Gypsies, and stated he was thinking about making some changes in the band. He thought the 60's would come back big.

What I wanted to tell him was "Yeah, you were huge in the 60's, and the music may come back. But it's been 30 years, and you're a different person now. Take the '60s as a base, but build on it using all you've learned and been through since. Otherwise, you'll be like the '50s doo-wop acts, still touring and endlessly repeating the same hits that made them famous back then. Is that what you want to do?"

There are plenty of folks from back then still around and doing great stuff. A while back, Moby Grape, a San Francisco band I hadn't seen the first time around, did some club dates in NYC. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Age isn't the factor. Style and subject is. The rocker who was every girl's masturbatory fantasy back when will only be sad still trying to do that at 70. The rocker that just wanted to make good music and put on a great show might well still have a place.
______
Dennis

I just like to add that traditionally, blues musicians were considered to just be hitting their peaks around 70.....

[happy_terd]

London to open 1st exercise area for older people

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/...60s_playground

(thought of this thread when I read the article)

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

old? I was perusing the paper while in the hospital and saw that Mel Gibson was turning 54. I kind of figured it was a typo and moved on. then I saw something again saying he was 54.

this cannot be possible! I checked online, wiki answers (which I have never figured out that website) says "about 60", other pages say the 54 number. anyone know the real deal?

54 in Hollywood Years. Like dog years for people with massive egos and too much money.