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Old 03-17-2017, 08:31 PM   #61
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I read a few years ago that the most expensive book in the world is the Sarajevo Haggadah. At that time it's most recent sale was for $800 million.

The book has a fascinating history and there is an even more fascinating book that relates that history. It's "People of the Book" by Geraldine Brooks. I read it about 7 or 8 years ago and it's one of the most fascinating novels I've read in a long time. Geraldine Brooks, who wrote the novel, was present at the recovery of the Haggaddah, which had been thought to be lost during WWII.

Yeah I'm a bit off-topic but this is good stuff.

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I read a few years ago that the most expensive book in the world is the Sarajevo Haggadah. At that time it's most recent sale was for $800 million.

The book has a fascinating history and there is an even more fascinating book that relates that history. It's "People of the Book" by Geraldine Brooks. I read it about 7 or 8 years ago and it's one of the most fascinating novels I've read in a long time. Geraldine Brooks, who wrote the novel, was present at the recovery of the Haggaddah, which had been thought to be lost during WWII.

Yeah I'm a bit off-topic but this is good stuff.

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It’s on topic insofar that ebooks have no monetary worth as an investment (besides any possible knowledge gained from reading it) in contrast with books that have the potential of gaining increasing monetary value. Even the lowly torn up paperback book, old edition textbook, or comics can yield a slight monetary return by being sold in garage sale, flea market or ebay. There is also the possibility of these unwanted books gaining non-monetary worth by helping the community when donated to the library, school or other community organizations. Ebooks, sadly lack all of the above advantages that physical books have.
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:29 AM   #63
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1.) Ebooks are eternal (DRM free ones, anyway) and don't warp or fall apart e.g. pages becoming unglued at the binding from too much handling during reading etc... You can backup your ebooks and so they are always in pristine shape. I have some physical books that are warped, dirty, and falling apart from too much handling (I read alot what can I say ?)

2.) When taking notes in an ebook, on a ereader, you can type a longer note, associated with a certain page, compared to writing in the margins on a page in a physical book.

3.) You can carry a ton of books in one ereader about the size of a paper back.

4.) Less potential clutter in your domicile ( might be more of an issue for some than others).

5.) Can read in the dark while travelling, camping or when you lose power or whatnot without a lamp.

5.) Kobo Aura H20 is waterproof/dust proof and physical books are not waterproof. You can read in a bath tub, beach or at the pool.

Sorry, if some of this is redundant I don't have time to go through the entire thread.

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On your number 5, that only applies to lighted ereaders. Some of us have basic ereaders.

On your number 4, one just needs Narnia or a Tardis or magical extending shelves.

On your number one, you forgot food splatters. Though that may only apply to cookbooks.
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My earliest ebooks, from around 1982 or so, are plain text files stored on 8" floppy disks. Hardly eternal. Yes I could locate and obtain the equipment somehow to retrieve them but I think that illustrates why they aren't eternal.
Point #5 Water proof books are available.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7596544.html
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:54 AM   #64
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Point #5 Water proof books are available.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7596544.html
... and paper books are less likely to kill you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39307418

What an idiot!
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:44 AM   #65
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... and paper books are less likely to kill you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39307418

What an idiot!
Nah, paper books'll get you too.

http://stephencfchan.blogspot.se/200...-by-books.html

The documented dangers of pbooks go back at least as far as Pliny the Younger:

https://www.loebclassics.com/view/pl..._LCL055.81.xml
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Nah, paper books'll get you too.

http://stephencfchan.blogspot.se/200...-by-books.html

The documented dangers of pbooks go back at least as far as Pliny the Younger:

https://www.loebclassics.com/view/pl..._LCL055.81.xml
True, but paper book are still less likely to get you than an ebook in an electronic device whose battery can spontaneously catch fire and burn down your house at any moment. Pedestrians are also increasingly becoming casualties while walking by texting however it's possible a few were engrossed in an ebook before they met their fate.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cent/81483294/

In regard to the dangers of pbooks I did get a nasty paper cut a time or two while reading.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:11 AM   #67
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A House Divided

My wife gets her books from the local library (or borrows them from friends) in PAPER format.

I get my eBooks from Overdrive, 3M Cloud, Hoopla, Project Gutenberg, etc.

We are definitely a house divided!

She recently sent me this video purporting that paper is NOT dead:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/V_gOZDWQj3Q?rel=0
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... and paper books are less likely to kill you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39307418

What an idiot!
Hmmm... an obvious candidate for a Darwin award.
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Point #5 Water proof books are available.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7596544.html
Yeah, but there are probably more ebooks available than waterproof books so my point still stands. It seems there are only a few waterproof books available and they are only the classics (according to your link which may be outdated) and an ebook is probably cheaper than a waterproof book ( the cost of an ereader eventually pays for itself ).

Anyway, I don't like to be limited to the classics. I find they are overpraised but it took me a longtime to figure out that the books are generally lousy and not my taste.

Newer books are generally better than older books because the publishing industry is more competitive, nowadays, and the cream rises to the top; also, newer books benefit from updated information (but not always).

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True, but paper book are still less likely to get you than an ebook in an electronic device whose battery can spontaneously catch fire and burn down your house at any moment. Pedestrians are also increasingly becoming casualties while walking by texting however it's possible a few were engrossed in an ebook before they met their fate.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cent/81483294/

In regard to the dangers of pbooks I did get a nasty paper cut a time or two while reading.
What are you innumerate ? What's the statistics on ebooks spontaneously combusting ? Must be extremely low at best.

Do drive a car ? More Americans have died in car accidents than in the Vietnam war but people still drive. Maybe, you should stop driving and sell your car.

Also, who the hell walks or drives while reading an ebook ? You can walk or drive and read a paper book too. I fail to see your point as walking and texting or driving and texting is alot more common numerically speaking than walkng or driving while reading an ereader and a physical book can cause the same fate.

I bet you alot more people die walking drunk, in Manhatta, by cars or driving drunk than by death by ereader. The numbers, statistically speaking must be extremely low.

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Yeah, but there are probably more ebooks available than waterproof books so my point still stands. It seems there are only a few waterproof books available and they are only the classics (according to your link which may be outdated) and an ebook is probably cheaper than a waterproof book ( the cost of an ereader eventually pays for itself ).

Anyway, I don't like to be limited to the classics. I find they are overpraised but it took me a longtime to figure out that the books are generally lousy and not my taste.

Newer books are generally better than older books because the publishing industry is more competitive, nowadays, and the cream rises to the top; also, newer books benefit from updated information (but not always).
Hi. If I remember correctly, you only read non-fiction and only to learn something not for the simple pleasure of reading.

Most of us here read for fun and enjoyment.

It also seems that you are taking every post very seriously when in this thread it is mostly sarcasm. The waterproof books were posted as a joke.

If you want to have a serious discussion about books or ebooks in general, start a thread.
But do make a note if you see a thread like hardback vs audio, it is probably a humorous thread.
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What are you innumerate ? What's the statistics on ebooks spontaneously combusting ? Must be extremely low at best.

Do drive a car ? More Americans have died in car accidents than in the Vietnam war but people still drive. Maybe, you should stop driving and sell your car.

Also, who the hell walks or drives while reading an ebook ? You can walk or drive and read a paper book too. I fail to see your point as walking and texting or driving and texting is alot more common numerically speaking than walikng or driving while reading an ereader and a physical book can cause the same fate.
I tried to walk and read but I ran into walls. Oh wait, I can run into walls not reading too.
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In regard to the dangers of pbooks I did get a nasty paper cut a time or two while reading.
Google "paper cut" and "sepsis." A pbook can have you toes up, too.
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My wife gets her books from the local library (or borrows them from friends) in PAPER format.

I get my eBooks from Overdrive, 3M Cloud, Hoopla, Project Gutenberg, etc.

We are definitely a house divided!

She recently sent me this video purporting that paper is NOT dead:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/V_gOZDWQj3Q?rel=0
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