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Old 02-16-2018, 10:39 AM   #106
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The comment thread on this very news was also locked, and some of the comments that were discussing the Indiegogo campaign were removed (I posted to it, and my comment was #21 at the time; now it's only showing 17 comments, and a locked thread).

Of course if questioned, the good folks at Goodereader.com will say that some "malcontents" (their own word for people whose money they took) were polluting the thread, and it had to be locked...
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:53 AM   #107
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Well, apparently Good Ereader does have stock on hand of both the 13.3" and 6.8" devices. They have uploaded pictures to their Facebook page. They claim that they have been sending them out to customers from both their own store and their Indiegogo campaign.

https://www.facebook.com/Goodereader

I haven't seen any indication of backers from their Indiegogo recently receiving any devices. Previously, people would often post comments when they got their tracking number or their product.

Still amazes me that they would ship to any new customers before fulfilling all the existing orders from the Indiegogo campaign. Especially since Michael initially claimed that they had temporarily closed their Indiegogo campaign so that they could better concentrate on fulfilling their existing orders. (That was before Peter let it slip that their campaign had been shuttered. And before people discovered that they had quietly started offering their devices on Amazon and on their own website.)

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posted by Michael Kozlowski Aug 29, 2017 • 6:37AM 6 months ago

Hey Everyone! We have decided to stop taking new orders for the Good e-Reader 13.3 so we can focus on fulfilling existing ones. Once we are all caught up we will take new orders again.


https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/1...r#/updates/all

Just in the last three weeks, backers with low order numbers (#207, #256, #258) have claimed that they have not received anything from the folks at Good Ereader...

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/1...ader#/comments

Yet Michael claims that they have sold thousands of units. And then he has the nerve to label those asking for their devices or for a refund as "malcontents". Unbelievable.

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People who receive the items are enjoying them, only the malcontents stir up trouble on the Indiegogo page.

https://goodereader.com/blog/electro...-day-promotion
So, there you have it. You are a malcontent if you ask them to honour their end of the deal after they have had the use of your money for more than a year.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:28 PM   #108
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Yet Michael claims that they have sold thousands of units. And then he has the nerve to label those asking for their devices or for a refund as "malcontents". Unbelievable.
More unbelievableness for you (enjoy):
https://goodereader.com/blog/electro...nternationally
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More unbelievableness for you (enjoy):
https://goodereader.com/blog/electro...nternationally
Yes, it is pretty unbelievable that they are attempting to sell the Sony DPT-RP1 for $999 (+ shipping and I would also imagine tax) when Amazon is selling and shipping it to Canada for $699.99 (shipping and estimated import fees would bring it to $799.79).

Perhaps they could offer their long waiting backers on Indiegogo a Sony DPT-RP1 instead if they are unable or unwilling to provide them with a Good Ereader 13.3" device.

On another note, here is what Michael seems to consider a "malcontent":

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SUK IL YOON 17 hours ago

Order ID: 192
Contribution Date: Apr 30, 2016
Estimated Delivery Date: September 2016
Paid: $729 + shipping
Email: siyoon100@hotmail.com

I cannot wait such a long delay and bought Onyx Max 2. However, I hope to get this perk anyway so I can present to my loved one.


https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/1...ader#/comments
How unreasonable that they should post a comment about not yet receiving their device when they have only been waiting for coming up to two years.
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i had one also...for a bit

I also was an indiegogo backer of the 13.3 inch android e reader

After the initial delays, I kept emailing the backers for a refund. They never responded to any emails about a refund. That went on for along time.

I think that went on for nearly a year? Something like that. I complained to indiegogo they were not responding to any emails to ask about updates or a refund, even with the long delay.

They pretty much did nothing other than tell me to email the person that refused to answer any email.

Despite not wanting the device, they sent it out. The only sort of silver lining was I had used paypal to put the order in. At some point during the campaign indiegogo had stopped working with paypal. I think it is because you can actually STOP payment on paypal and contest a fradulent sale.

At any rate, I got a device-like a year after it was suppose to ship--it was really not impressive-slow--buggy software, very limited. And when I would turn the device I could hear components sliding internally--like something had not been secured in the assembly.

I contacted them again about a replacement...then opted to ask for a return and refund. Then I filed a complaint with paypal and they FINALLY started to answer my emails. I had to pay return shipping from the USA to Canada at about $90, but I was ok to spend $90 to get back potential $729 refund.

Well, after I could see from tracking it was delivered, I kept emailing and asking Peter when I would get a refund. It took quite a few weeks as I had to deal with the hold on the charge with paypal, and lots of back and forth. Peter blamed paypal for the delay. I do not know. But they actually cleared it and I did get the refund. I complained a few times about the issues and Peter or Michael K were rather dismissive of claims and I felt at times implied my refund would be held up if I didn't delete the comments. I did...but it was another sign that something just isn't kosher.

Since I was refunded, I was no longer a backer and could no longer comment on the indiegogo page.

Which is just as well. The entire experience was pretty terrible. I am annoyed about the return shipping but I still got most of my money returned. And while the Good-e-Reader folks were really annoyed I put a hold with paypal, it seemed to be the only way to get them to respond to me.

I truly hope they get in trouble, but indiegogo seems to have quite the infamy with failed campaigns or vaporware. I had also backed something called the thinkcharger which was...rather similar--except I only put it like $80 for the deal---and after a year delay they finally had to cut refunds--quietly. And then folded despite raising far more than the goal.

I don't want to mention the meteor smart watch....
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