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Old 09-14-2011, 08:31 AM   #46
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Most things that I use a laptop for I can also use my Toshiba Thrive for. I can create, edit, and view office documents, read ebooks, web surf, even touch up photos if I want to. I've been plugging it into a projector and using it in the class room in lieu of a smart board. The onscreen keyboard is actually pretty good but if I need to I can plug a keyboard into the usb port easily. People who dismiss the use of tablets for productivity have a very narrow view of what constitutes productivity.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:48 AM   #47
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Most things that I use a laptop for I can also use my Toshiba Thrive for. I can create, edit, and view office documents, read ebooks, web surf, even touch up photos if I want to. I've been plugging it into a projector and using it in the class room in lieu of a smart board. The onscreen keyboard is actually pretty good but if I need to I can plug a keyboard into the usb port easily. People who dismiss the use of tablets for productivity have a very narrow view of what constitutes productivity.
What luqmaninbmore says... always thought that the casual dismissal of tablets says more about the person doing the dismissal than the viability of tablets for aiding productivity in many areas...
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:07 AM   #48
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I've got an upgrade ready and waiting, but Sprint tends to suck when it comes to phone selection. Their one WP phone is outdated. I may just go for the iPhone, and see where WP is next time around. I like the idea of going for WP instead, but choosing Microsoft over Apple isn't exactly fighting the man. Plus I want to own an iPhone just for the experience. Maybe.

Meanwhile, I just spent the last hour using Windows 8 on my desktop. Oh by did I uninstall that fast. It's a developer build so that experience means little, but it seemed so tailored for a tablet that I found it unusable. I probably could have given it more time and adjusted it for desktop use but I lost patience. Will wait for release.
Yeah I was debating about doing that last night but I would have felt like you. I think a developers build is a bit out of my expertise. LOL
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:10 AM   #49
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A laptop is designed to be set down on a flat surface. Trying to use them while standing somewhere is awkward at best. Also sitting them on top of your lap is ill advised.
While I agree with the first two points, the latter can fixed with better designs. I have an Asus UL30A-X5 13.3" laptop with Core 2 Duo SU7300 1.2GHz which features more than 8 hours battery life. It gets slightly warm to the touch but never hot. Meanwhile, my brother's Acer netbook is capable of burning the skin on your legs despite the supposedly lower-power Atom N230 CPU. Newer processors from Intel and AMD are coming out with lower heat output compared to earlier models which should help quite a bit in lowering heat generated.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:14 AM   #50
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Just downloaded the 64 and 32 bit versions of Win 8....not sure where I'm going to install them yet though.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:30 AM   #51
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The release date for WIn 8 is at least a year away, according to Business Insider. WOW.

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There's a developer pre-release version available today. That's probably going to be somewhat buggy and not feature-complete, but good enough for developers to get started.

With Windows 7, that pre-release version came out in October 2008. Windows 7 became available just over a year later, in November 2009.

So look for Windows 8 in fall 2012. Or, if something goes wrong, early 2013.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/windo...#ixzz1XwNXJxzZ
Think of where Apple is going to be in fall 2012. Ipad 3 will be have been out for months, and IOs 6, with God-knows-what-goodies, will be ready to go. The Apple ecosystem will be even bigger, better, and more entrenched.

As for Android, both Amazon tablets will be out by then, XOOM2 will be out, with Google even more behind it , now that it owns Motorola, and there will be a gajillion other options.
I'm sure Win8 will continue to dominate the PC market. But I just don't see it making headway in tablets. Its just too far behind.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:43 AM   #52
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I really hope Microsoft doesn't try to rush this thing out to compete with the iPad.
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While I agree with the first two points, the latter can fixed with better designs. I have an Asus UL30A-X5 13.3" laptop with Core 2 Duo SU7300 1.2GHz which features more than 8 hours battery life. It gets slightly warm to the touch but never hot. Meanwhile, my brother's Acer netbook is capable of burning the skin on your legs despite the supposedly lower-power Atom N230 CPU. Newer processors from Intel and AMD are coming out with lower heat output compared to earlier models which should help quite a bit in lowering heat generated.
"Hot legs" are only part of the issue. The other is that many laptops have vents underneath which can become blocked when set down on a soft surface.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:55 AM   #53
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Microsoft tends to be a follower, not a leader, they are not likely to rush it. They've already got the world by the balls.....
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:05 PM   #54
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"Hot legs" are only part of the issue. The other is that many laptops have vents underneath which can become blocked when set down on a soft surface.
Which, again, can be remedied by better design. For example, the vents on my laptop are found on the side instead of the bottom. While passive cooling on laptops might not be doable right now, advances in processor technology and proliferation of SSD's will make that possible (hopefully soon).
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Wait, ARM-based W8 tablets will be restricted to the Windows store?

It's starting to sound more and more like these really aren't going to have a huge advantage over iPads or Android tablets.

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thats the only time ive read that since build started. Im sure you will be able to get arm win8 apps from elsewhere and sideload them
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thats the only time ive read that since build started. Im sure you will be able to get arm win8 apps from elsewhere and sideload them
I'm also sure you will be able to do this. The question is whether or not Microsoft will officially endorse it? They did lock down Windows Phone, after having an open mobile platform for years.

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I've tried to, but it keeps failing...

And I plan to install it in a virtual machine.
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Microsoft tends to be a follower, not a leader, they are not likely to rush it. They've already got the world by the balls.....
The question is how long that grip will last. In the business space, I would expect it to last for some time, because businesses have a lot of tailored stuff on top of Windows. For consumers, however, I think that the alternatives present a very serious threat to Windows OS dominance. I don't know if I'll ever buy another Windows PC (I've got 3, but I only really use one now, and that's plugged into the TV to watch video and may get replaced by an apple TV or similar soon).
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