support for asian characters

Justice Strike · 09-08-2009, 06:06 PM

Can anyone tell me how the support for the thai language is? I'm trying to learn thai, so i want to download thai text and read it. Now it should be possible to read thai next to english, and not the one or the other.

I know that PDF is a option, but idealy i want the word documents to work. So can anyone tell me if it will work and/or if it can be hacked to let it work?

hmmbug · 09-08-2009, 11:42 PM

i can't answer your question yet but I have a PRS600 on order and will also be interested to know if there is Thai support - it's a nice-to-have feature for me, not a deal-breaker. Will update you when it arrives if some else doesn't answer before...

Justice Strike · 09-09-2009, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmmbug

i can't answer your question yet but I have a PRS600 on order and will also be interested to know if there is Thai support - it's a nice-to-have feature for me, not a deal-breaker. Will update you when it arrives if some else doesn't answer before...

great. It's kind of a dealbreaker for me though, as i will be using it to learn thai. And it's kind of defeats the purpose if it doesn't show the language. I really am amazed that this isn't universally solved. We had this problem on pc's a decade ago and it has since been solved. And now the exact same problem is present on ereaders. It's absolutely absurd.

well anyway, i'll be happy to wait for the results, when will you be getting this device?

dweller · 09-09-2009, 05:49 AM

Well my PRS-600 doesn't seem to support unicode text in non latin scripts.

We tested the following ebook for a friend of mine since he wanted to buy one for learning Japanese:
http://www.jonnoring.net/unicode-tes...tion-v001.epub

If you want to create a test PDF specifically in Thai, I'm happy to try it out for you (but it most likely won't work).

Justice Strike · 09-09-2009, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dweller

Well my PRS-600 doesn't seem to support unicode text in non latin scripts.

We tested the following ebook for a friend of mine since he wanted to buy one for learning Japanese:
http://www.jonnoring.net/unicode-tes...tion-v001.epub

If you want to create a test PDF specifically in Thai, I'm happy to try it out for you (but it most likely won't work).

Well i heard that you could put fonts onto the sony prs600 and refer to that or embed fonts in the epub. Both would suffice for me, but i need some kind of assurance that it will work, otherwise it will be a pretty expensive piece of hardware i will barely use.

Justice Strike · 09-09-2009, 10:18 AM

here is a pdf (for those interested, book of matthew from the bible)

http://www.biblica.com/bibles/thai/pdf/matthew.pdf

and here is a news page:
http://www.chiangmainews.co.th/

i want to get some news feeds and convert them to a book to try and read in the train.

komugi · 09-10-2009, 12:01 AM

It's pretty easily solved using CSS Override + placing a Thai font on the device and pointing the CSS to the font, it'll load it fine.

Justice Strike · 09-10-2009, 04:08 AM

is this a certainty? and how easy is this to implement in calibre? What i pplan to do is get some rss news feeds and generate new daily content to read. But in the morning, i really don't have a lot of time to handcraft a newspaper.

Justice Strike · 09-11-2009, 03:47 PM

noone can answer me?

superstitious · 09-11-2009, 08:51 PM

I feel ya. I want to read book in Thai also but so far on the device I am ordering which is the EZ reader Pocket Pro, only support Japanese, Chinese, and Korean. Maybe they will support Thai so I don't know. I will try the bible pdf file to see if it would read. Will let you know once I have the device. As far as the 600, I am not so sure. Sorry I couldnt be much help here.

komugi · 09-11-2009, 09:34 PM

As long as you have a font supporting the language, you can move it to the reader, and use CSS on ePUB format to override the font body of the article, and yes, you can set it in calibre, I believe you can save it as a default so it always includes the CSS override.

hmmbug · 09-12-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Justice Stirke

well anyway, i'll be happy to wait for the results, when will you be getting this device?

not sure yet... have ordered from BH in the US, they're out of stock right now, need to wait for shipping to Singapore and customs clearance...

pinboke · 09-14-2009, 02:19 PM

If you open a Thai document in your program and print it to a pdf file, put it into your reader, you will most likely be able to read it in the reader. Another way to go is to produce an epub file with an embedded Thai font, which can be done in some Asian programs drifting on the net. Finally, you can save a Thai font into the internal memory of the reader and produce a epub file which refers to THAT font. I did not have any luck with Calibre myself and had to use some manual manipulation to create epub files this way. But, you can try these different methods and find one that best suits your needs.
Cheers.

wallcraft · 09-14-2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice Strike

Well i heard that you could put fonts onto the sony prs600 and refer to that or embed fonts in the epub. Both would suffice for me, but i need some kind of assurance that it will work, otherwise it will be a pretty expensive piece of hardware i will barely use.

Yes, either technique will work. So far as I know, there are not yet any good tools for embedding fonts in an ePub, but for the fonts on the device approach see ePub custom Fonts on 700 and 505. I am not aware of any significant differences for mobile ADE between the 300/600 vs the 505/700, so all the 505/700 stuff should work the same. Note that this still involves changing the ePub to explicitly reference the font.

As others have noted, you can also embed fonts in PDFs.

Justice Strike · 09-14-2009, 04:40 PM

i've already ordered the psr600. I hope i won't be forced to convert books manually. That would suck.

I also saw a sdk for the psr500. will that work with the psr600?

09-08-2009, 06:06 PM	#1
Justice Strike Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: psr600	support for asian characters Can anyone tell me how the support for the thai language is? I'm trying to learn thai, so i want to download thai text and read it. Now it should be possible to read thai next to english, and not the one or the other. I know that PDF is a option, but idealy i want the word documents to work. So can anyone tell me if it will work and/or if it can be hacked to let it work?

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09-08-2009, 11:42 PM	#2
hmmbug Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Singapore Device: None	i can't answer your question yet but I have a PRS600 on order and will also be interested to know if there is Thai support - it's a nice-to-have feature for me, not a deal-breaker. Will update you when it arrives if some else doesn't answer before...

09-09-2009, 05:49 AM	#4
dweller Member Posts: 24 Karma: 16 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Sony PRS-600, Kindle DXi, Apple iPad 64GB 3G	Well my PRS-600 doesn't seem to support unicode text in non latin scripts. We tested the following ebook for a friend of mine since he wanted to buy one for learning Japanese: http://www.jonnoring.net/unicode-tes...tion-v001.epub If you want to create a test PDF specifically in Thai, I'm happy to try it out for you (but it most likely won't work).

09-09-2009, 10:18 AM	#6
Justice Strike Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: psr600	here is a pdf (for those interested, book of matthew from the bible) http://www.biblica.com/bibles/thai/pdf/matthew.pdf and here is a news page: http://www.chiangmainews.co.th/ i want to get some news feeds and convert them to a book to try and read in the train.

09-10-2009, 12:01 AM	#7
komugi Zealot Posts: 109 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Surface Pro 3, HTC 10, Kobo Aura H2O	It's pretty easily solved using CSS Override + placing a Thai font on the device and pointing the CSS to the font, it'll load it fine.

09-10-2009, 04:08 AM	#8
Justice Strike Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: psr600	is this a certainty? and how easy is this to implement in calibre? What i pplan to do is get some rss news feeds and generate new daily content to read. But in the morning, i really don't have a lot of time to handcraft a newspaper.

09-11-2009, 03:47 PM	#9
Justice Strike Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: psr600	noone can answer me?

09-11-2009, 08:51 PM	#10
superstitious Addict Posts: 206 Karma: 7270 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: K3 wifi	I feel ya. I want to read book in Thai also but so far on the device I am ordering which is the EZ reader Pocket Pro, only support Japanese, Chinese, and Korean. Maybe they will support Thai so I don't know. I will try the bible pdf file to see if it would read. Will let you know once I have the device. As far as the 600, I am not so sure. Sorry I couldnt be much help here.

09-11-2009, 09:34 PM	#11
komugi Zealot Posts: 109 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Surface Pro 3, HTC 10, Kobo Aura H2O	As long as you have a font supporting the language, you can move it to the reader, and use CSS on ePUB format to override the font body of the article, and yes, you can set it in calibre, I believe you can save it as a default so it always includes the CSS override.

09-14-2009, 02:19 PM	#13
pinboke Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: PRS-700	If you open a Thai document in your program and print it to a pdf file, put it into your reader, you will most likely be able to read it in the reader. Another way to go is to produce an epub file with an embedded Thai font, which can be done in some Asian programs drifting on the net. Finally, you can save a Thai font into the internal memory of the reader and produce a epub file which refers to THAT font. I did not have any luck with Calibre myself and had to use some manual manipulation to create epub files this way. But, you can try these different methods and find one that best suits your needs. Cheers.

09-14-2009, 04:40 PM	#15
Justice Strike Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: psr600	i've already ordered the psr600. I hope i won't be forced to convert books manually. That would suck. I also saw a sdk for the psr500. will that work with the psr600?

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