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Will Nook be sold to Rakuten Kobo?
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What will the new owners of Barnes and Noble do with the Nook? Or will they take a hands off approach to the management of B&N? Quote:
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11-14-2019, 08:01 PM | #2 |
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Rumor has it that Daunt has said that the Nook can remain as long as it "keeps pace" with the Kindle. Daunt is a bookseller, who revamps book stores to make them profitable. In his UK stores, he had a stint selling Kindles. He has been reported as saying that he has no interest in selling someone else's devices.
So who knows? It would seem Daunt has no particular interest one way or the other in the Nook or ebooks, so Nook may sputter along as long as it doesn't cause any aggravation. But being a division in a corporation that is deemed unessential does not seem like job security. The bugger about privately held companies is that they can be very opaque to the inquisitive. Personally, I have a dozen or so books trapped in the B&N ecosystem because I did not download them while I had a chance. I am unlikely to switch back to Nook, so the only interest I have is that I might be able to recover those books if B&N transfers the services to someone else. Last edited by Tomk2; 11-14-2019 at 08:08 PM. |
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11-14-2019, 08:44 PM | #3 |
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There's been lots of compatibility issues with new Macs and old software (with many applications), so that really doesn't mean that... "There has been increasing difficulty for users of the Nook and purchasers of Nook content from Barnes and Noble." As for not being able to download eBooks from B&N for side-loading, that's an old issue from five years ago. I'm guessing Waterstones may sell Nooks at some point, but the "case" made here doesn't seem particularly cohesive.
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11-14-2019, 09:39 PM | #4 | |
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I seem to recall Windows users had issues with the Nook Study app akin to the Mac users issues. I would love it if Rakuten did buy out Nook, because then my libraries would be merged without relying on certain plugins to assist in this. But I don't think it's going to happen based on the speculation in the OP. Though I also do not think Waterstones will start carrying the Nook given the rather disastrous moves of Nook UK and the negative experience that left the Nook UK customers with. Daunt also doesn't seem to have any particular love of ebooks, certainly not an outright dislike but I can't see him trying to champion a device and service which already failed in the UK, and has proved to be a money loser in the US despite many cost saving cutback moves of BN. |
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11-15-2019, 03:53 AM | #5 |
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Indeed corporate inertial means the most likely thing is that nothing will change.
I wasn't suggesting it likely that Rakuten would take over Nook, just that the Nook seems to be in an awkward situation made worse by the take over of B&N. If I had B&N ebooks I'd want to make sure they worked on something else. Copyright is good. DRM is evil, it removes rights of consumers and turns what they think was a purchase into a temporary licence which can be revoked by turning off servers, or failing to keep producing the DRM compatible device at a corporate whim. I've books over 100 years old. I've some 80 yo records. I've CDs, DVDs, BDs. How long does a physical ereader last? I've all my ebooks backed up. I have backups of backups. Probably most are public domain, but I have bought eBooks from Amazon (not all had DRM) and Smashwords (none ever had DRM). Long ago I used commercial video libraries and subscription TV. I still use the Public Library. No-where did I ever see it clearly stated (or usually not stated) that when I buy content I'm really only renting a temporary licence. I get it about Copyright. I've never made copies of any copyright material for anyone else. So now I make sure I don't buy digital content that can't be backed up and used on a different device, somehow. Someday I might transfer my VHS tapes. I don't think they make VHS machines now and some of the content isn't on DVD/BD. Also why should I buy it again unless I can afford it? I have bought DVD or BD versions of some VHS for quality. Though I have a 46" 4K I'd not repurchase any DVDs in BD, the change in quality compared to a good DVD is too marginal compared to the big change from VHS to DVD. Back to eBooks: I don't think anyone with physical bookshops likes ebooks, or Amazon. None seem to have figured out how to sell ebooks instore. Maybe 30% of people don't have broadband or WiFi in Ireland. Though just about everyone has smartphones and can use an app to buy and read an ebook. Also traditional publishers are mostly doing new titles on eBook. Why are they not using POD (for paper) and eBooks for the massive back catalogue. The Big US Corps have got Copyright extended to death + 75 years. Even 50 was too long. Yet you can't buy the books! |
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Daunt has made it clear he will be directy running B&N to change its practices and make the stores more locally-focused. He will still be running Waterstones but he will be spending about 75% of his time in NYC, the rest in London. Some of his statements about changes are hopeful but a couple suggest he has some learning ahead. As pointed above, Nook's fate will depend on whether sales are stable or still declining. As long as it is self-sustaining it'll stay open, but if not it will be...disposed of. Yes, it is in an awkward position. Mostly because Daunt is no friend of ebooks. He also is no fan of "lifestyle" merchandise in the stores. He is all about print. What comes next will take time to play out as he tries to stem the decline in traffic. Last edited by fjtorres; 11-15-2019 at 06:51 AM. |
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11-15-2019, 11:23 AM | #7 |
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I personally think it will be disposed of. I, for one, have bought exactly one book from B&N since they removed the download feature. Yes, I can still download them, but I only get the free books. My only form of protest against the sideloading issue is not buying. Plus I really sympathized with the UK Nook owners who were left to drift. Fortunately, others figured out how to use the Nook after factory reset without registration.
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11-15-2019, 02:01 PM | #9 |
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I think it's the most likely possibility, yes
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11-15-2019, 03:25 PM | #10 |
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I can see why B&N may want to sell Nook, but why would Rakuten want to buy it?
Sure they get the customers, but they come with existing devices that would have to be supported. It might not be worth it considering that if Nook shuts down they are likely to pick up many of those people anyway. |
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They might simply take the Nook customers on till the Nook is dead. They did that with Sony.
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2- Nook readers can accept Kobo ADEPT ebooks. So it wouldn't be too hard to support them. |
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Best bet would be for Kobo to buy Nook and get a display of some sort in B&N stores, at least for a while. |
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Is B&N dumping Nooks and ebooks or Nooks only?
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