Questions about emailing ebooks to Amazon account

pdurrant · 07-22-2016, 09:04 AM

In another thread, the recommendation for gaining easy access to non-Amazon ebooks from a Kindle was to email the ebooks to ones Amazon account, where they'd become available to all Kindles on that account.

I have a few questions

Is there an account-level email address to send to, or does any address associated with any Kindle do?
What format is best to send? MOBI, AZW3, Combined or ePub? Or something else?
How much storage is available for ebooks sent in this way?
Is it possible to update or delete/resend documents sent in this way?
Do the books appear in the same list as books purchased from Amazon on a Kindle? Or is there a separate list?

Thanks!

HarryT · 07-22-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

I have a few questions
[LIST="1"][*] Is there an account-level email address to send to, or does any address associated with any Kindle do?

There is an email address associated with each of your Kindles which is shown in the "Your Devices" tab of the "Manage Your Content and Devices" page of your Amazon account.

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What format is best to send? MOBI, AZW3, Combined or ePub? Or something else?

You can't send AZW3. You can send either "old" Mobi or "Combined" Mobi. Personally I'd send the latter. This will then download as old/new Mobi depending on the device or app.

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How much storage is available for ebooks sent in this way?

It's unlimited, but with a caveat that Amazon could restrict it if you abuse it. I've not heard of anyone being limited.

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Is it possible to update or delete/resend documents sent in this way?

Delete it from the "Manage Your Content and Devices" page of your Amazon account, and then re-send it. I'm not sure if you can simply overwrite it re-sending it. You probably can, but I haven't tried.

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Do the books appear in the same list as books purchased from Amazon on a Kindle? Or is there a separate list?

Same list, but they will show up as a "Personal Document", not a "Book", so you can separate them that way.

pdurrant · 07-22-2016, 09:35 AM

Hmm... I wonder is a couple of thousand books would be abusing the system...

Now that B&N have gone away, it would be nice to have (most of) my Fictionwise purchases available from an on-line presence again.

HarryT · 07-22-2016, 10:21 AM

I don't think that would be a problem. Many people have multi-GB libraries on Amazon.

eschwartz · 07-22-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Is there an account-level email address to send to, or does any address associated with any Kindle do?

There is only a per-device email address, but if you have chosen to archive your sent PDOCs, they will be available from the Cloud/Archived Items/whatever-Amazon calls-it-these-days tab on all your other devices, in addition to being queued for that specific device.

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What format is best to send? MOBI, AZW3, Combined or ePub? Or something else?

Amazon doesn't support EPUB conversion, last I checked, but who cares, calibre can do it instead.

Between MOBI and dual-MOBI, it depends on whether you value reading in AZW3 on supported devices, versus seeing the cover thumbnail in cover view (MOBI-only due to a bizarre unfixed Amazon bug).

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Is it possible to update or delete/resend documents sent in this way?

Delete and resend. Amazon's intake processes add a random ASIN from the PDOC namespace to all books, and they will show up as two documents. If you don't mind the duplication, feel free to skip step #1.

pdurrant · 07-22-2016, 10:53 AM

Thanks, both. The switch for archiving or not is described here. It seems I have it turned on already. Now all I need to do is try it out.

tomsem · 07-22-2016, 01:27 PM

Also, you may want to install the Send To Kindle app on your Mac or Windows machine. It's better than using email, as you can edit the Title/Author (which may otherwise get mangled) choose whether to archive or not, and the file size limit is 50MB instead of whatever attachment limit you may have with email.

Josieb1 · 07-22-2016, 01:45 PM

You can't overwrite a book already sent. If you send a later version you just have two copies in the cloud. I have over 500 personal docs on my account.

Mine are all mobi as I need to have the cover

HarryT · 07-22-2016, 01:49 PM

Thanks both for confirming that you can't overwrite a book in the Cloud. Something I hadn't tried doing.

cvkemp · 07-22-2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Thanks both for confirming that you can't overwrite a book in the Cloud. Something I hadn't tried doing.

What I found too, just saves anoher copy of the book, You can see the difference in th dates that they were uploaded then delete the older one.

pdurrant · 07-22-2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

Also, you may want to install the Send To Kindle app on your Mac or Windows machine. It's better than using email, as you can edit the Title/Author (which may otherwise get mangled) choose whether to archive or not, and the file size limit is 50MB instead of whatever attachment limit you may have with email.

Thank you! An excellent idea.

Little.Egret · 07-22-2016, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cvkemp

What I found too, just saves anoher copy of the book, You can see the difference in th dates that they were uploaded then delete the older one.

Yes. I try to delete unwanted old variant copies from "Manage Your Content and Devices" to avoid confusion.

But there seems to be a bug. Remove from device only works for a few hours (on the Kindle originally emailed to) and then the Doc is back again and even a delete from "Manage Your Content and Devices" doesn't stop this behaviour.

Cinisajoy · 07-22-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Little.Egret

Yes. I try to delete unwanted old variant copies from "Manage Your Content and Devices" to avoid confusion.

But there seems to be a bug. Remove from device only works for a few hours (on the Kindle originally emailed to) and then the Doc is back again and even a delete from "Manage Your Content and Devices" doesn't stop this behaviour.

If they are docs then you have to remove first from the device then from the MYCAD.

lairdb · 07-22-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

In another thread, the recommendation for gaining easy access to non-Amazon ebooks from a Kindle was to email the ebooks to ones Amazon account, where they'd become available to all Kindles on that account.

I have a few questions

You might want to check out my conclusion-and-summary post here (and perhaps the whole related thread); I had a very similar set of questions a few weeks back.

FizzyWater · 07-22-2016, 07:16 PM

I've always worried about sending files I'd originally received as ePub, then stripped DRM. Would Amazon be checking for books it knows that should be digitally encrypted? From what people have said here, it doesn't sound like it.

07-22-2016, 01:45 PM	#8
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,016 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Libra2, Clara 2e, Kindle PW SE & Kindle 2022	You can't overwrite a book already sent. If you send a later version you just have two copies in the cloud. I have over 500 personal docs on my account. Mine are all mobi as I need to have the cover Last edited by Josieb1; 07-22-2016 at 01:48 PM.

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07-22-2016, 09:04 AM	#1
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,510 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	Questions about emailing ebooks to Amazon account In another thread, the recommendation for gaining easy access to non-Amazon ebooks from a Kindle was to email the ebooks to ones Amazon account, where they'd become available to all Kindles on that account. I have a few questions Is there an account-level email address to send to, or does any address associated with any Kindle do? What format is best to send? MOBI, AZW3, Combined or ePub? Or something else? How much storage is available for ebooks sent in this way? Is it possible to update or delete/resend documents sent in this way? Do the books appear in the same list as books purchased from Amazon on a Kindle? Or is there a separate list? Thanks!

07-22-2016, 09:35 AM	#3
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,510 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	Hmm... I wonder is a couple of thousand books would be abusing the system... Now that B&N have gone away, it would be nice to have (most of) my Fictionwise purchases available from an on-line presence again.

07-22-2016, 10:21 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I don't think that would be a problem. Many people have multi-GB libraries on Amazon.

07-22-2016, 10:53 AM	#6
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,510 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	Thanks, both. The switch for archiving or not is described here. It seems I have it turned on already. Now all I need to do is try it out.

07-22-2016, 01:27 PM	#7
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,478 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	Also, you may want to install the Send To Kindle app on your Mac or Windows machine. It's better than using email, as you can edit the Title/Author (which may otherwise get mangled) choose whether to archive or not, and the file size limit is 50MB instead of whatever attachment limit you may have with email.

07-22-2016, 01:49 PM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thanks both for confirming that you can't overwrite a book in the Cloud. Something I hadn't tried doing.

07-22-2016, 07:16 PM	#15
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	I've always worried about sending files I'd originally received as ePub, then stripped DRM. Would Amazon be checking for books it knows that should be digitally encrypted? From what people have said here, it doesn't sound like it.

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