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Old 07-11-2019, 05:57 PM   #31
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Wow, someone acting like an adult.
I don't really think it's being "childish" to want the option to turn off an annoying "feature." I don't like it because it usually pops up before the ending of the book, where there's often a note from the author. But if I had my way I would also like the option to remove the GoodReads icon from Home Page and remove the app altogether.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:00 PM   #32
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I've put 5.12.1 on both my PW4s and it's running fine. I like both Amazon and Kindle. If I didn't, I wouldn't be here.
I like my Kindle readers also. But just because I like them it doesn't mean I have to like EVERYTHING about them. If I had my choice, every book would open at the cover and the "before you go" popup would just ... go.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:13 PM   #33
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I don't really think it's being "childish" to want the option to turn off an annoying "feature." I don't like it because it usually pops up before the ending of the book, where there's often a note from the author. But if I had my way I would also like the option to remove the GoodReads icon from Home Page and remove the app altogether.
Interesting, I have never seen it pop up until I am at the very last page and could not go any further. Usually a reminder to turn off the Oasis and back on the get the touchscreen to work again and select a new book. In my usecase it doesn't bother me even though I don't use any features of the popup itself.
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:37 PM   #34
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I don't really think it's being "childish" to want the option to turn off an annoying "feature." I don't like it because it usually pops up before the ending of the book, where there's often a note from the author. But if I had my way I would also like the option to remove the GoodReads icon from Home Page and remove the app altogether.
Yep.

I use Goodreads integration (but rarely the ‘app’, which is horribly slow and only shows the default Shelves), but if you have not connected a Goodreads account, it should hide the UI for it entirely.

I think I said earlier that I’d prefer to turn off the sometimes unexpected automatic presentation of B4YG and be able to explicitly invoke it from Menu. I may want to ‘finish’ it before reading to ‘End‘, however the publisher chose to define it.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:29 AM   #35
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I don't really think it's being "childish" to want the option to turn off an annoying "feature." I don't like it because it usually pops up before the ending of the book, where there's often a note from the author. But if I had my way I would also like the option to remove the GoodReads icon from Home Page and remove the app altogether.
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I like my Kindle readers also. But just because I like them it doesn't mean I have to like EVERYTHING about them. If I had my choice, every book would open at the cover and the "before you go" popup would just ... go.
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Yep.

If you have not connected a Goodreads account, it should hide the UI for it entirely.

I think I said earlier that I’d prefer to turn off the sometimes unexpected automatic presentation of B4YG and be able to explicitly invoke it from Menu. I may want to ‘finish’ it before reading to ‘End‘, however the publisher chose to define it.
What they said.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:04 PM   #36
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My vote too
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Old 07-12-2019, 08:05 PM   #37
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Interesting, I have never seen it pop up until I am at the very last page and could not go any further.
It shows up at whatever is defined as the end of the book in the TOC, which is any point you like, with no required relationship to the actual last page (it can even be before the defined start position, though the Kindle's behaviour is a bit... odd if you do that). It's common to put the end before random ads for other books and that sort of thing, but a badly-produced book could easily put it before the end of the actual content.
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Old 07-13-2019, 03:53 AM   #38
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It shows up at whatever is defined as the end of the book in the TOC, which is any point you like, with no required relationship to the actual last page (it can even be before the defined start position, though the Kindle's behaviour is a bit... odd if you do that). It's common to put the end before random ads for other books and that sort of thing, but a badly-produced book could easily put it before the end of the actual content.
May that as it be, I was simply saying that in my experience, with the books I am reading, the end is always at the end. If it wasn't I might be annoyed by the popup. I wouldn't mind an option to turn it off, but I am okay with it on. For now at least.
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I pay no attention to the Before You Go pop-up. I hit the X in the upper right corner as soon as it appears. Then I promptly forget about it.
Indeed, I don't use it either, but I just pay it no heed and move on.

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Old 07-13-2019, 03:46 PM   #40
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Another update! I excitedly go to "What's New" and hold my breath while I search for the words "screensaver". It's like checking my lottery ticket numbers. Not sure why I bother.
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Old 07-14-2019, 04:17 AM   #41
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Mostly they are to do with enhancing Marketing and/or DRM. Any improvement otherwise in GUI since the 1st Kindle is minimal. Biggest plus was non-Latin/Roman language & font support and publisher fonts. Both of which existed on Linux YEARS before anyone made any eReader.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:18 AM   #42
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Hi guys, Can I downgrade from a 5.12.1 FW to a lower one?
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:31 AM   #43
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No. I don't think possible on Sony or Kindles to "go back" only "forwards"
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I like my Kindle readers also. But just because I like them it doesn't mean I have to like EVERYTHING about them. If I had my choice, every book would open at the cover and the "before you go" popup would just ... go.
And I would hate having every book opening on the cover. I also don't want a never ending list of "adjustments" to personalize my Kindles.

I think Kindle knows that making everyone happy is impossible because some have no intention of ever being happy.
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Old 07-14-2019, 05:24 PM   #45
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Amazon are driven by marketing concerns. Not what readers might be happy with. Sadly true with Kobo, Sony, Barnes & Noble etc.
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