Firmware Update Kindle firmware 5.12.1

[shalym]

Originally Posted by FrustratedReader

I find "Before you go" very annoying. Especially as my OWN writing outnumbers books bought from Amazon, I also buy books from Smashwords and the bulk of my ebooks are gutenberg or other genuine public domain vintage titles.

Any ideas what bugs fixed or changes from 5.11.2 apart from the daft idea of a list on the Before You Go?

Why would I want to choose books from the "Before you Go" insult screen? How is AMAZON going to decide which titles I already have to list there? Unread Purchases? Items in so called Cloud?
I have Collections and Search as well as what ever ordering on the home screen. If they simply returned me to home screen when I finish a book, likely the next one is one click away. Sounds like evil marketing.

I promise you, not everything Amazon does is evil marketing. Some is just trying to make things easier. I *like* the before you go feature. It allows me to rate the book on Goodreads and add it to my "Read" shelf (I know that many people don't use this feature, but I appreciate it) For books not purchased from Amazon, the "before you go" feature doesn't even appear, (at least not for me) so why would it bother you for books that you wrote yourself or bought from another source?

Shari

[Atunah]

I like the "before you go" popup. *shrugs. I always mark each read with stars. At the same time those stars go on goodreads as I have it linked and I think it tweets it out for me. Its also most always at the end of the book where it should be. Occasionally I close it and keep paging if there is some from the author note. Not a big deal. I always make sure I am at 100% anyway with each book I read.

Not sure how useful it would be to put other books I already own on that page. That is mainly because I own so many how in the heck would it pick.
I make my own reading order.

Obviously most of those features are mostly for those that use kindles with kindle books and like the integration with the system. Which I like. Its another way for me to track what I read. I also like the new features they gave us while back on the home view page, go figure.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by shalym

For books not purchased from Amazon, the "before you go" feature doesn't even appear, (at least not for me) so why would it bother you for books that you wrote yourself or bought from another source?

Shari

It appears for all the books sideloaded from Calibre. Perhaps because they're marked as books, not as docs.

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by FrustratedReader

Also this is another case where you get new Firmware (via Wireless or USB transfer) and LATER Amazon, when wireless is activated or time delay or something, activate a feature. In this case the list of books to read on the "before you go page".
That is an unacceptable way to deliver upgrades. It's a bad user experience. Is it instead of proper in-house testing?

I suspect that the feature is ready, but the data to drive it will take some time to produce. It is likely that the selection of the book choices for before-you-go will be made on Amazon's servers using information that isn't available on the Kindle itself, such as book series grouping.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by shalym

I promise you, not everything Amazon does is evil marketing. Some is just trying to make things easier. I *like* the before you go feature. It allows me to rate the book on Goodreads and add it to my "Read" shelf (I know that many people don't use this feature, but I appreciate it)...

But it would be nice to be able to turn this feature off. I don't use Goodreads (zero interest), and if I want to review or rate a book, I just go to the Amazon site and do it from there.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

It appears for all the books sideloaded from Calibre. Perhaps because they're marked as books, not as docs.

Ah...interesting. All of my books from other sources are stored in my Kindle cloud, and marked as docs.

Shari

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by jhowell

I suspect that the feature is ready, but the data to drive it will take some time to produce. It is likely that the selection of the book choices for before-you-go will be made on Amazon's servers using information that isn't available on the Kindle itself, such as book series grouping.

That's obnoxious on several counts.

Amazon shouldn't have been allowed to buy IMDB & Goodreads. You are giving Amazon a free ride updating Goodreads.
Also there should be the ability to turn off "the before you go" feature.

Mainly I have the PW3 to buy Amazon books to read on my Kobo ereader and to test my ebook generation. So ultimately it won't affect me much.

Now, off to read #6 of AEW Mason's Detective series.

[Deskisamess]

I pay no attention to the Before You Go pop-up. I hit the X in the upper right corner as soon as it appears. Then I promptly forget about it.

[tomsem]

I like Before You Go, but for those who don’t, I support the idea of having it be something you can turn off, or have it be ‘on Demand only’ (accessed through menu).

The latter is something I’d probably prefer: it often pops up before some end matter that I’d like to read, or fails to pop up after I read the main material (many non-fiction books have End location defined literally as the last location in the book, following footnotes index etc, and you have to jump over many pages of that to get there (or GO TO the End location, which seems to define where in the book it pops up).

[rcentros]

From my earlier post in this thread ...

I'm having a lot of crashes on my "new" Paperwhite using 5.12.1 firmware. Of course it's a new to me Paperwhite 2, so I don't know if it's firmware or hardware issues that are causing the crashes. Just curious if anyone else is having issues since upgrading to 5.12.1.

EDIT: It appears to be font related. So long as I change to a built-in font before opening a new book everything is fine. If I use one of my custom the program will often (not always) crash. Once I've moved to a new book I can change to my custom fonts without any issues. So the work-around is pretty easy.

It's definitely some kind of issue with fonts. I ran into the same problem on my Kindle Basic (8th Generation). Same solution. Go to another book that doesn't crash, change the font to one of the built-in ones, and the books opens without the error (doesn't actually crash, just won't open).

[barryem]

Originally Posted by tomsem

It seems that is not the case. You can suppress About This Book on first open, but there is no option for turning off Before You Go (apart from avoiding the End location), unless they added one in this new update.

Thanks for the correction. I guess I remembered it wrong.

Well, I made it to 78 before making my first mistake.

Barry

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by barryem

Thanks for the correction. I guess I remembered it wrong.

Well, I made it to 78 before making my first mistake.

Barry

Perhaps it is prophecy. And if there’s a multiverse, then of course there is such an option.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

I pay no attention to the Before You Go pop-up. I hit the X in the upper right corner as soon as it appears. Then I promptly forget about it.

Wow, someone acting like an adult.

[patrickt]

I've put 5.12.1 on both my PW4s and it's running fine. I like both Amazon and Kindle. If I didn't, I wouldn't be here.

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by shalym

For books not purchased from Amazon, the "before you go" feature doesn't even appear, (at least not for me) so why would it bother you for books that you wrote yourself or bought from another source?

Shari

Not true. This annoying, intrusive pop-up appears on any book I've read, whether sideloaded or purchased from Amazon. I hate it and resent that I am not given an option to get rid of it.