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Old 02-23-2018, 01:26 PM   #46
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You've bought a right to read the book on a certain device for a less than physical book price. That file was licensed to you, not sold.
That license does not have a time limit on it.

Effectively the same thing. I have an open ended license to a work.

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Old 02-23-2018, 03:08 PM   #47
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That license does not have a time limit on it.

Effectively the same thing. I have an open ended license to a work.
Yep. And people have been left "high and dry" when a seller goes belly up. How does Sarmat89 think that situation should be remedied? Or is it only one-sided to him?
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:24 PM   #48
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I'll just quote a random reader's manual:

"Extremely high or low temperatures" are 0° and 50°. So it cannot be worn in the pocket in winter. You cannot read on the bus stop. You cannot read in the direct sunlight in summer, as the screen or battery will get too hot.

I'm still puzzled what is "incorrect" in copying files from a computer and recharging it regularly with a USB cable. Unless you mean an expensive branded reader with WiFi connectivity and integrated book shop? Those are not popular where I live.
How many of us need to be outside in 50°C (122°F) weather?

What is "long periods" to you that it precludes any reading in direct sunlight? I have never had an overheating incident despite reading in direct sunlight for a couple hours at at time.

And the last few days I have been reading in approximately -5°C weather at my bus stop with no problems. And that is probably just the operating temperature, not a storage temperature, which is likely lower. As long as you let it warm up or aren't outside with it too long your coat pocket is just fine.

Yes, I do need to take the e-reader inside at night rather than leaving it in my car. From that perspective, I suppose it is more delicate than a normal book. But then again, I have seen many paperback books fail at the bindings and start losing pages. I haven't seen that in an e-reader. Paper books certainly aren't any better in water than e-readers either. You can put an e-reader in a plastic baggy and read all day in the rain. Good luck doing that with a paper book.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:17 PM   #49
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...Paper books certainly aren't any better in water than e-readers either. You can put an e-reader in a plastic baggy and read all day in the rain. Good luck doing that with a paper book.
You could even get a waterproof reader.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:36 PM   #50
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In that case, care to explain why has 99% pirated content out there been de-DRMed and converted from Adobe/Amazon formats to EPUB with that particular software? Is it just coincidence?
I find it rather fascinating that you are so familiar with pirate sites and have inspected so many pirated book that you are able come up with the conclusion you posted. Out of a perhaps morbid curiosity, how many pirated ebooks have you downloaded in the last year? Or do pirate sites now include notices as to what deDRM and conversion tools have been used?

Also out of curiosity, you do know that deDRM tools are available in standalone versions as well? Such as the case of Epubor who will sell you paid versions of free software.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:48 PM   #51
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You've bought a right to read the book on a certain device for a less than physical book price. That file was licensed to you, not sold.
Really? Can you point out where that limit is in the license? Less than the cost of a physical book? I've seen quite a few BPH ebooks at or over the price of the paperback edition.

After taking a quick look at Amazon and Kobo terms, it would appear that I am allowed to sync/read the ebook on at least 5 or 6 devices. Google and other book stores I've checked don't seem to have a device limit other than that imposed by Adobe's licensing limitations.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:48 PM   #52
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How many of us need to be outside in 50°C (122°F) weather?

What is "long periods" to you that it precludes any reading in direct sunlight? I have never had an overheating incident despite reading in direct sunlight for a couple hours at at time.

And the last few days I have been reading in approximately -5°C weather at my bus stop with no problems. And that is probably just the operating temperature, not a storage temperature, which is likely lower. As long as you let it warm up or aren't outside with it too long your coat pocket is just fine.

Yes, I do need to take the e-reader inside at night rather than leaving it in my car. From that perspective, I suppose it is more delicate than a normal book. But then again, I have seen many paperback books fail at the bindings and start losing pages. I haven't seen that in an e-reader. Paper books certainly aren't any better in water than e-readers either. You can put an e-reader in a plastic baggy and read all day in the rain. Good luck doing that with a paper book.
I live in South Georgia where it can get to 115F in the summer with 100% humidity and I never have over heating problems.
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I live in South Georgia where it can get to 115F in the summer with 100% humidity and I never have over heating problems.
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But sitting outside to read in that weather would give you overheating problems.

(Or at least me. Being from California, fifteen years hasn't been enough to acclimate me to the murderous Houston summers.)
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But sitting outside to read in that weather would give you overheating problems.

(Or at least me. Being from California, fifteen years hasn't been enough to acclimate me to the murderous Houston summers.)
Houston and South Georgia have very similar weather. Except you get hurricanes more than we do. The curve of the coast and the Gulf Stream combine to make most hurricanes veer east or west of us.
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(Or at least me. Being from California, fifteen years hasn't been enough to acclimate me to the murderous Houston summers.)
I live in DFW (like you, it's "whether I like it or not") and we sometimes get "Houston weather" (or as my brother calls it, "dog breath weather") but I don't see how anyone could live in it all the time. Basically I console myself in the middle of a humid heat wave in Dallas by saying, "at least I don't live in Houston."
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That was a great article. I might just have to check out that author's ebooks.

I prefer my dedicated e-Ink reader, like many others here, and I pretty much gave up on print books, although it probably took me five years to make the switch (2002-2007 or thereabouts). As I get older, I find it hard to imagine going back to books I can't change the font size on.

I agree, however, that if somebody came up with a way to make a tablet have the battery life (and weight) of my eInk reader, I'd be glad to narrow down to a single device.

I think for lots of casual readers, the phone (or even tablet if they have one) will suit them just fine. Even $50 for a dedicated reader is an expensive choice for a 1-book-a-year reader. They might be happy to inherit an older model from one of us more enthusiastic readers who like to upgrade now and again, though.
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DRM and profitability of publishing have no connection. Case in point: Tor dropped all DRM some years ago and it had no impact on their sales.

Since having DRM or not makes no difference to publishers' sales, customers removing DRM makes no difference either.
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DRM and profitability of publishing have no connection. Case in point: Tor dropped all DRM some years ago and it had no impact on their sales.

Since having DRM or not makes no difference to publishers' sales, customers removing DRM makes no difference either.
Especially when they can only do it to books they already bought.
If anything it improves sales of the format that can be disinfected vs the locked down formats.
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I got the link from the original thread. That link turned out to be to Nate's report. So if the two thread were merged (I think they should have been) then that link would have been the first link in the thread.
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Especially when they can only do it to books they already bought.
If anything it improves sales of the format that can be disinfected vs the locked down formats.
I agree with that. It's pretty rare that I buy a format that I can't remove the DRM. The few times that I do, it's because the tools haven't quite caught up with the latest changes and I expect that I will be able to remove the DRM fairly soon.
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