10-12-2014, 11:10 AM | #31 |
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That's actually an interesting argument. And I can understand how watermarking would be similar to putting a lock on your door. But how do you justify DRM that prevents you from transfering your purchases across devices or prevents you from storing it on a media of your choice? Thats like putting a lock on your door that even you can't open...
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10-12-2014, 11:26 AM | #32 |
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To a point. I can steal an audiobook from the library by "forgetting" to delete the files on my MP3 player at the end of the loan period. Not only did DRM fail to protect the book, but it didn't require me to jump through any hoops to keep it.
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DRM isn't protecting the library book any more than it protects any other book. |
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We must agree to differ. I firmly believe that library DRM is both necessary and useful.
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10-12-2014, 11:42 AM | #35 | |
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However, given a choice between an ebook with encryption-based DRM, and no ebook at all, I'll take the ebook with DRM, thank you very much. Some publishers - regardless of how misguided they are in their belief - simply will not publish ebooks without DRM. |
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10-12-2014, 11:42 AM | #36 |
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I would also choose the DRM-ed ebook over none at all; I can't help but wonder though... what happens when it comes down to a choice of DRM-ed ebook versus no ebook vs pirated ebook? For some people, the willingness to pay for an ebook may be over-ridden by the convenience of simply downloading a DRM stripped file. |
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10-12-2014, 12:38 PM | #39 |
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10-12-2014, 01:27 PM | #40 |
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I can live with DRM'd books but what I don't like is the fact that many publishers are now putting on DRM that only allows the book to be placed on say a Kobo ereader or a Kindle. You therefore have to either read on a tablet where you can get the app or you must purchase the appropriate ereader. I have noticed this alot with Kobo lately
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Not a nice thing to tell your customers. Last edited by EowynCarter; 10-12-2014 at 02:00 PM. |
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Unfortunately it's the minority of thieving scumbags who make it necessary. If everyone was as honest as you, there would be no need for DRM. Blame the thieves, not the publisher.
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10-12-2014, 02:50 PM | #44 |
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I'm wondering if you lock your door when you're away from home. Because if you do, by your logic, you are accusing all your neighbors of being thieves, aren't you?
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10-12-2014, 03:00 PM | #45 | |
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Human behavior is a continuous spectrum, not a binary equation. Everybody has some slight trace of dishonesty in them, and everybody has some trace of nobility and altruism in them. That's human nature. The aim of DRM isn't to stop all piracy, it's to reduce it. Reducing it even a small amount can involved big dollars. That reducing piracy isn't the same thing as increasing sales is a point missed by a lot of publishers, but their logic is internally consistent, even if it is beside the point. |
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