Library books from OverDrive - Page 3

HLS · 01-09-2018, 08:12 AM

I wonder if things are different depending on library? My Library when I borrow a book with overdrive it directs me to an amazon link where it will send the library book straight to my kindle

Shad Plante · 01-09-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Given the flak OverDrive got from some publishers after Kindle borrowing came out in the US, including some publishers temporarily stopping offering their books to libraries through OD, it's possible that OverDrive hasn't looked to expand Kindle lending. We really don't what or where any holdups might be...

Don't forget that the parent company of Overdrive also owns Kobo. They may be willing to work with Kindle in the US since Kobo has pretty much ceded the US to Kindle, but might not want to in the rest of the world since they compete in those markets. Especially Canada.

DNSB · 01-09-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kcladyz

I wonder if things are different depending on library? My Library when I borrow a book with overdrive it directs me to an amazon link where it will send the library book straight to my kindle

And that is where the issues with Canadian libraries and privacy come from. Amazon now has a record of your library loan.

DNSB · 01-09-2018, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Given the flak OverDrive got from some publishers after Kindle borrowing came out in the US, including some publishers temporarily stopping offering their books to libraries through OD, it's possible that OverDrive hasn't looked to expand Kindle lending. We really don't what or where any holdups might be...

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Originally Posted by Shad Plante

Don't forget that the parent company of Overdrive also owns Kobo. They may be willing to work with Kindle in the US since Kobo has pretty much ceded the US to Kindle, but might not want to in the rest of the world since they compete in those markets. Especially Canada.

A nice theory. One minor issue with it is that Canadian libraries did not offer Kindle content prior to Rakuten purchasing Overdrive. See my previous message about privacy concerns and cost.

Sydney's Mom · 01-09-2018, 02:57 PM

In Illinois, Overdrive offers Kindle, but the State of Illinois elibrary does not- only epub

graycyn · 01-09-2018, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

And that is where the issues with Canadian libraries and privacy come from. Amazon now has a record of your library loan.

Yes, and this may be true even if you NEVER borrow a Kindle format ebook. More than once, after borrowing an epub from my library, I've visited Amazon to suddenly see the same book, books in the same series or books from the same author suggested. I'm quite certain they get that info from Overdrive as I primarily buy and ALWAYS borrow epub!

It's rather annoying and definitely an invasion of privacy. Not enough for me to stop using the library though....

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rcentros · 01-09-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcladyz

I wonder if things are different depending on library? My Library when I borrow a book with overdrive it directs me to an amazon link where it will send the library book straight to my kindle

That's the way mine works ... well, actually, since I haven't picked a default, I still have to choose Kindle or ePub. When (if) I choose Kindle then I "get the loan" at Amazon. I also return my books from Amazon.

Shad Plante · 01-09-2018, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

A nice theory. One minor issue with it is that Canadian libraries did not offer Kindle content prior to Rakuten purchasing Overdrive. See my previous message about privacy concerns and cost.

Didn't realize that. It does give Rakuten even less reason to expand Kindle library lending outside the US in addition to the privacy concerns though.

FizzyWater · 01-09-2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by graycyn

Yes, and this may be true even if you NEVER borrow a Kindle format ebook. More than once, after borrowing an epub from my library, I've visited Amazon to suddenly see the same book, books in the same series or books from the same author suggested. I'm quite certain they get that info from Overdrive as I primarily buy and ALWAYS borrow epub!

It's rather annoying and definitely an invasion of privacy. Not enough for me to stop using the library though....

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I've had Amazon offer me information on non-book items I looked at on Facebook or some other online retailer. I doubt Overdrive is sharing your epub history with Amazon - I'd be more likely to think Amazon is just watching your browsing history (like Facebook and Google and likely others do).

tubemonkey · 01-10-2018, 04:23 AM

All your browsing history are belong to us

simplyparticular · 01-10-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FizzyWater

I've had Amazon offer me information on non-book items I looked at on Facebook or some other online retailer. I doubt Overdrive is sharing your epub history with Amazon - I'd be more likely to think Amazon is just watching your browsing history (like Facebook and Google and likely others do).

Google Ads, Facebook and others sell services to site owners using tracking pixels to deliver you "relevant" ads. I'm sure Amazon is a big customer of all of them, along with its own propietary systems.

DNSB · 01-12-2018, 06:40 PM

Four or five years ago, I read a blog post from Data Privacy day which I found rather memorable. Looking at it now, the more things change, the more they remain the same.

“Lately, it seems that barely a day goes by when we don’t learn about a major Internet presence taking steps to further erode users’ privacy. The companies with access to our data are tracking us in ways that make Big Brother look like a sweet little baby sister.

“Typically when we hear an outcry about privacy violations, these perceived violations involve some apparently omnipotent corporation recording the websites we visit, the applications we download, the social networks we join, the mobile phones we carry, the text messages we send and receive, the places we go, the people we’re with, the things we like and dislike, and so on.

“How do they do this? By offering us free stuff to consume online and infrastructure for the online communities that tie us together. We gobble up their technologies, download their programs, use their services, and mindlessly click ‘I Agree’ to terms and conditions we haven’t bothered to read.”
--Robert Siciliano

Full item is at Data Privacy Day 2012.

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DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,401 Karma: 145435140 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Four or five years ago, I read a blog post from Data Privacy day which I found rather memorable. Looking at it now, the more things change, the more they remain the same. “Lately, it seems that barely a day goes by when we don’t learn about a major Internet presence taking steps to further erode users’ privacy. The companies with access to our data are tracking us in ways that make Big Brother look like a sweet little baby sister. “Typically when we hear an outcry about privacy violations, these perceived violations involve some apparently omnipotent corporation recording the websites we visit, the applications we download, the social networks we join, the mobile phones we carry, the text messages we send and receive, the places we go, the people we’re with, the things we like and dislike, and so on. “How do they do this? By offering us free stuff to consume online and infrastructure for the online communities that tie us together. We gobble up their technologies, download their programs, use their services, and mindlessly click ‘I Agree’ to terms and conditions we haven’t bothered to read.” --Robert Siciliano Full item is at Data Privacy Day 2012.